Star Wars: EPISODE III Thread

Started by Blackthorne, Sun 25/07/2004 10:10:57

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Adamski

Puppets and animatronics will always, always be more awesome than CGI.

(Yes, that comment appears to have come out of nowhere but I swear there's a tenuous link with the last post! Honest!)

jetxl

I've seen SW3 yesterday and I must say that if you watch the film with low expectations it will be a suprisingly nice film. There were some things that I didn't expect. Overall a good film, but that might be because of the destructive nature that appeared so much in the 3 originals.

however...and here it comes...there were some "flaws".
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1. Why didn't someone saw the jedi holocaust comming. They could have read a klone's mind.
2. If the jedi in the temple are so powerful why did they got their asses kicked by the klones.
3. If Anikin is so afraid of losing Padmin, why is he so distant from her.
4. Padmin has transformed from a strong queen to a humble housewife.
5. Anikin informs Mace Windo that the senator is a sith lord, the senator reveals his true face, Anikin chops Windo's hand off, the senator kills Windo, Anikin says "what have I done", the senator asks Anikin to join the dark side with his charisma -5 and Anikin just says "...okay".  Anikin swithes sides like a lightswitch.
6. Why is Chubacca in the film. Characters that don't infuence the story don't have to make an appearence. (same goes for 3CPO, though)
7.  (and this had nothing to do with the story itself). While watching the second-last scene, the film got off the reel. CRAPPY MOVIE THEATRE, LAST TIME I GO THERE! So I think that the second-last scene is about the senator becomming officially the emperer.
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All and all, a big movie with a small story. Think about it, the story of the SW films are focussed on just a handfull of characters while the si-fi CGI enviroment are there just to distract us. Most of the characters don't change a bit throughout the film. They change between the bit that is not filmed. Finally we're done with the prequals.

Potch

Hmm, I saw the movie last night as well. (and now, 4 hours later, I'm sitting at work worshipping my cup of coffee...)  And I have a different opinion....

Personally I thought it was GREAT.  I mean, sure, we ALL know what's going to happen, but it still hit me like a ton of bricks when it did.  It's the first Star Wars that actually made me tear up a little.  Of course, I didn't analyze the inconsistencies as much as some people do.  I just sit back, watch, and enjoy.  I thought it tied episode 2 to episode 4 extremely well.  Yet again, Yoda was a bada$$.  R2 was fabulous. 

Seeing it opening night is always fun, because there's just so much excitment in the air.  People dressed up, people cheering when the credits roll, lught sabers piecing the darkness of the theater... it was a good time. 
The hardest thing in this world... is to live in it. (Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy Summers in "The Gift")

Mr Flibble

Now I don't want to go on a rant here, no thats a lie, yes I do.
I just want to make a point.
Now personally I liked Episode 1, for two main reasons.
1) It was childish, and I was a child at the time of seeing it
2) There were robots in it. Everybody loves robots.

I'm not saying I don't like Star Wars, but I would like to poke some holes in it.
Apart from the light saber battles (low tech versions available in movies like The Princess Bride, or anything with fencing), the most memorable scene in the first movie (Episode 4), was probably the Death Star trench run.

Lucas openly admits that he ripped this whole scene off from The Dambusters.

So what Star Wars has done is taken your typical swordplay/Battle of Britain type film, and added lasers. Essentially, the most memorable parts of the film (Darth Vader excluded)  have been stolen from other films.
Ah! There is no emoticon for what I'm feeling!

Darth Mandarb

I too thought it was pretty darn great.

R2's humor was ... I think it was hilarious at first, but I think it went on a little long.

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PROS
- Yoda was great!  Piggybacking on Chewie brought huge applause.
- Palpatine's origins were great to hear!
- Tarkin w/ the Emperor and Vader looking at the construction of the Death Star
- The no CG set of the Tantive IV and captain Antilles (hearkening to EpIV) was awesome!
- The Millenium Falcon in one of the opening scenes was great!
- Emperor calling Yoda (my little green friend)

CONS
- I think Grievous was an unnecessary character.  Dooku should have escaped so Anakin could kill him later to end the clone wars
- Where was the scene with Mon Mothma and Bail Organa starting/forming the rebellion (I was REALLY waiting for that)
- Qui Gon should have been in there AND talked to Obi-Wan
- Midichlorians are not in eps 4-6, this should have been explained
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Ah hell I could go on an on with the Pros ... just a few more cons.

All in all I think it was awesome.  It was definitely the best of the prequels.

Esseb

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If they don't mention midichlorinininans whatsoever in this movie I think it's a great move. Forget they ever were thought up I say. I'd even support George if he decides to edit episode 1 and 2 so all references to them are removed.
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Blackthorne

Saw it last night at midnight.  I loved it; it was a great way to spend my 27th birthday.

It's a movie, not a bible.  I was entertained.


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Potch

Hey, I went for my 27th b-day too. :-)  Well, actually my b-day isn't until tomorrow, but my friend bought the tickets for my b-day.

Happy birthday to you!
The hardest thing in this world... is to live in it. (Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy Summers in "The Gift")

Privateer Puddin'

I liked it. It was weird to see Darth Vader again, kinda brought back the feeling of seeing him when i was younger, scary D:

BerserkerTails

I saw it opening day, midnight, the whole shebang. And I loved it. Sure there were a few things wrong, but in my opinion, it was way better than the other two prequels (And I love Episode I!).

Funniest Moment:

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Right before Obi-Wan and Padme leave for the lava planet, there's a quick shot of Obi-Wan sitting down in this small stall thingie, then closing the door with the Force. Is it just me, or did it look like Obi-Wan was entering a startship bathroom (Think Airplane Bathrooms)? I laughed so hard when I thought this.
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Darth Mandarb

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I liked hearing Vader say Padme's name.  And then, when the Emperor said that in his rage Anakin had killed her you can see (even through the mask) the last vestige of Anakin Skywalker die and Darth Vader (the one we know and love/hate) is born.  It was quite cool.
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Kweepa

Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Fri 20/05/2005 18:20:54
I liked hearing Vader say Padme's name.

Boy, you're easily pleased :=

Personally, I thought the plot was just as pathetic, ridiculous and unbelievable as the first two.
I liked the action, and the atmosphere of the last half hour was good.

Meh.
Still waiting for Purity of the Surf II

Daz

I thought Lucas tried to fit a load of stuff from the other films and consentrated on forcing it rather than just letting it happen, like the random appearences of jar jar and stuff although i though the glimps of the millenium falcon was pretty cool heh. Is it me or did Anikan turn into golum at the end?. I thought the acting was a bit shoddy to say the least aswell....and Chewwie wasn't in it enough either.
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stuh505

I think that they really learned from their mistakes with episodes I and II.Ã,  While the first 2 had very tedious unemotional plots, this one had a much more emotional and epic plot...and they definitely tried to play this up at least.Ã,  The acting was of course not the greatest, but at least they had some meat to go on, and they tried to go all out which is much better than just not even attempting to put emotion in.Ã,  Towards the end of the movie, it was pretty intense...and hearing vader cry out Padme's name really humanized his character and made his perspective seem more real, I thought.

Episodes 4,5,6 were not the amazing movies they're made out to be either.Ã,  Their success had a lot to do with society at the time they came out.Ã,  If episodes I and II got a C-, I'd say episode III gets a B.

Miez

I saw it, and liked it a lot ... but some of the acting was truly bad. Worse even than in ep I or ep II. ("Noooooooo!" anyone?)
However, that was only during some moments ... overall the movie rocked hard. I especially like the huge lizard and the way the movie wraps up, ready for ep IV. :)

Adamski

So I saw episode three last night with my girlfriend, we both came out slightly bewildered. Visually impossible to follow as there's so much clutter on the screen during the action sequences and the lightsabre battles were unwatchable as it felt like someone was shining a powerful torch directly into your eyes twenty times a second. A bunch of stuff happened that didn't really matter because we all knew the outcome before going into the cinema. Woefully bad dialogue, stale acting (did everyone act like robots to blend with the emotionless computer graphics better?), epilepsy-inducing direction, plotholes aplenty, no reason to feel any empathy for any of these characters whatsoever - what was the point of this film? It was like watching very expensive glowing multicoloured laser paint dry for two hours.

The Anti-Bush stuff was good though. And watching Hayden Christensen burn.

Darth Mandarb

Quote from: Dark Stalkey on Sat 21/05/2005 13:13:42The Anti-Bush stuff was good though.

It wasn't anti-Bush.  It was anti-Vietnam.

"Filmmaker George Lucas insists that the genesis of his story dates back 30 years. But he pointed out that certain themes do seem to repeat themselves, whether here and now or a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."  (source: Washington Post article)

While it may have some similarities and parallels to our current commander-in-chief, it wasn't written about him.

Honestly guys, I think you were all expecting FAR too much.  I don't think the acting in the prequels was any worse than the original trilogy.  In the end it has the same plot (now that you can see the first three in a row) which is revealed to be about Anakin Skywalker.

Ep IV - Ep VI's special effects were top-of-the-line back in 77-83 and Ep I - Ep III's are top of the line now.

About the only gripe I would agree with is that the dialogue was better in the originals, but the dialogue in the prequels isn't as horrible as all the bashers complain about.

I admire George for doing it the way he wanted.  I, personally, would love to have the clout to do it 'my way' and make the movie I wanted to see. 

Personally I think Ep III tied the whole series together nicely.

Quote from: Dark Stalkey on Sat 21/05/2005 13:13:42plotholes aplenty

Could you elaborate on the plotholes?  What plotholes did you see?

Kinoko

My opinion is that the new movies suck and will always suck, even if they weren't crap, because new movies should never have been made. Star Wars was fine the way it was, and George is a dickhead. I hate him, I hate the new movies, and I refuse to catalogue them in my brain as being apart of the Star Wars I know and love. I'm so fucking sick of now having to specify "the original trilogy" when I want to say, "I love Star Wars". This whole situation shits me, I hate him, I hate the movies. They can all go to hell, and they suck.

There. Take that, y'all. Yo.

Blackthorne

Quote from: Kinoko on Sat 21/05/2005 16:43:25
My opinion is that the new movies suck and will always suck, even if they weren't crap, because new movies should never have been made. Star Wars was fine the way it was, and George is a dickhead. I hate him, I hate the new movies, and I refuse to catalogue them in my brain as being apart of the Star Wars I know and love. I'm so fucking sick of now having to specify "the original trilogy" when I want to say, "I love Star Wars". This whole situation shits me, I hate him, I hate the movies. They can all go to hell, and they suck.

There. Take that, y'all. Yo.

You are literally angry with rage!

Bt
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Darth Mandarb

Quote from: Blackthorne on Sat 21/05/2005 17:14:06
Quote from: Kinoko on Sat 21/05/2005 16:43:25
My opinion is that the new movies suck and will always suck, even if they weren't crap, because new movies should never have been made. Star Wars was fine the way it was, and George is a dickhead. I hate him, I hate the new movies, and I refuse to catalogue them in my brain as being apart of the Star Wars I know and love. I'm so fucking sick of now having to specify "the original trilogy" when I want to say, "I love Star Wars". This whole situation shits me, I hate him, I hate the movies. They can all go to hell, and they suck.

There. Take that, y'all. Yo.

You are literally angry with rage!

Anger leads to the darkside Kinoko ... I say go for it :)

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