Why is this age limit set dammit!?

[AGA]

There have been plenty of people on these forums under the age of 16 throughout the years, and I don't think one of them would complain about being treated like garbage. I was 15 when I first joined (although admittedly I did turn 16 10 days later...), and I was never treated badly because of my age. Hell, I became a moderator (EVIL, YOUNG-HATING MODERATOR!) less than a year later. The 16 age limit only exists because it's generally safe to say that if someone isn't fairly mature by that age, they're never gonna grow up. If you were capable of acting like an adult, your age would never have been an issue. You could be 12 and we wouldn't care, as long as you didn't act particularly immature.

[DGMacphee]

someone who hasn't got a proper grasp of the English language

I remember a time where most Elite members weren't so particuliar about the English language either. That's not a very good reason.

Way to quote me out of context. I did write stuff after that bit, y'know. 

"Elite" members (whoever the hell they are) might not be so particular about English. Case in point: The Butcher, who is one of the most charming guys I've ever met on the internet. But someone who "hasn't got a proper grasp of the English language who comes in here and demands everyone pay attention without following the rules set here" bugs the hell out of me. I can't speak for anyone else, but my guess is I'm not alone in thinking this judging by some of the responses here.

I have no standing to say this at all, but despite Flukeblake's blatant immaturity, I'm a bit appalled everybody decided to take a moral high ground over him. Can't anybody say "been there, done that"? And though you all mean well by defending this forum and community's honor, why throw oil on the fire?

Defending the community's "honor"? Sounds like I'm going to fight a dragon for the community, then have my knightly way with her in her quarters. HA HA CALL ME SIR SPANK-A-LOT, PRINCESS COMMUNITY! YOUR HONOR IS MINE! HA HA!

Ahem... excuse me...

Seriously, no one is defending anyone or anything's honour. We're just saying simply: "Respect the rules or get out".

We've all "been there" and "done that". But from what I've learnt, if you want to be taken seriously, or even just accepted or understood, you've just got to respect other people's wishes first, especially the wishes people who pay for and run things for free, like internet forums. And I've learnt some harsh lessons about netiquette. Some of those lessons were deservedly from moderators here. Sure, I don't think I know everything about proper netiquette -- I still eat my ones and zeros with my fingers like a messy grub. But I do know about respecting people who give us a place to talk about adventure games for free. So, I don't think I'm preaching from a high and mighty place. I think I'm just speaking from experience.

[Gregjazz]

If no moderators "policed" the forums, or at least they didn't have the power of the 'Lock Thread' option, these threads would be so much better.

Moderators where made for a reason. If nobody "policed" the forums, we'd have so much spam, so many offending threads, so many threads in the wrong forums, so many repeated threads, etc. Yay for moderators, I say.

(Okay, AGA, now can I have $20?)

[PsychicHeart]

 : oh no, there'd be a teensylittle bit of spam or a tiny excerpt of swear (which there is heaps of anyway). Well booooooooooooooo-hooooooooooo. Call Superman, so he can stop the wrath of evil threadstarters. Godspeed! Rules were made to be broken. Okay, i admit i was a bit of a jackass, but i made some good rebuttals. Anyway, spam in moderation has been proven to be good for you.
or how about we call on Wrongthreadbusters, so they can launch a daring daylight raid on beginners who accidentally put their thread in the wrong thread.
Humbug

[Mozesh]

Where the hell is this all going...
So you want to be treated as an 16+ then act like one. With these posts your postin' you won't achive that. These rules are made to be followed not to be changed by one person who feels like they aren't fair.
EDIT:

I think we should stop humouring him and leave the situation to the moderators.

I agree.

[Chicky]

Flukeblake finds the whole situation unfair because he finds it hard to understand what he is doing wrong. He is not at an age yet where he can understand others and treat them with respect.

I think we should stop humouring him and leave the situation to the moderators.

[AGA]

Andail and I kind of are the moderators, and we're dealing with it...

[Andail]

Chicky; extremely well put.
I was going to mention this catch 22 myself. Something along the lines of "if you're too young, you won't understand how immature you are".
The best you can do is to keep a low profile, watch and learn.

For the last time, Flukeblake, every single one in here is trying to explain things to you, but your persistance in refusing to understand makes it not worth the while.

Nobody hates you, we're not gonna ban you, we're not gonna flame you for no reason.

And Dowland; this is an extremely patient and open-minded forum. Where other forums would kick and ban members for the tiniest trolling, we try to teach and explain what they're doing wrong.

And as DG pointed out; CJ owns these forums, the rules are his to set. If the moderators are behaving badly, he will be the one to correct us.  AGA, myself and the rest are still acting according to CJ:s plans, or else he would fire us!

Can we all try to accept these things and move on?
Flukeblake, can you try to abide to the rules, act as mature as possible, and simply calm down?

[=The=Brat=]

I agree, i was on AGS since i was 9 just watching and learning the rules, tricks of the trade and the humor of adventure games. only at the beggining of this year did i start making topics. you should give it a go.

one more thing, i have made a lot of bad comments and pointless topics(and i mean A LOT) but once i got speaken to by a moderatir i go back on track. you have been talked to by moderators at least 5 times and you still wont cooperate with us.

Good Luck AGA and Andail(You make a graet team)

[BorisZ]

Is this guy (Flukeblake) one-eyed ISP provider who put hundreds of crap posts in beginers forum about a week ago?

[=The=Brat=]

thats the one! 

[BorisZ]

Sure, he is mature 

[Ishmael]

I think you're barking the wrong tree there. It was some random troll, AFAIK. You too just walked over what had Andail said. Way to go. :/

So much about being mature and understanding :

[Babar]

Defending the community's "honor"? Sounds like I'm going to fight a dragon for the community, then have my knightly way with her in her quarters. HA HA CALL ME SIR SPANK-A-LOT, PRINCESS COMMUNITY! YOUR HONOR IS MINE! HA HA!

hahahha....I wonder how many hapless alligators and monitor lizards were slaughtered by the chivalrous knights.

This thread is a gold-mine of quotes.

I'm treated like grabage? :O

I hope that was a typo. Otherwise, I am up for grabage too.

* Babar looks around for takers

Flukeblake, everyone is guilty of a little immaturity. See ^ up there, I was too. However, if it gets too much, people start getting annoyed. Read around the forums. Or work on a game. Post when you have questions about art or scripting or music. Cool down for a while. If you post something now that might even have the slightest reason to attack, you'll probably be attacked. Once everyone else has also cooled down, even if you have the occasional "immature" (funning) post, it probably will be ignored.

Still, although it might not be my place to question (hehe..Fascist moderators! ), but why was flukes sonic thread locked? Admittedly, the art was nothing great. Perhaps he only spent 5 minutes on it. But he could have improved, no?

[Dowland]

I was not siding with Flukeblake ... just I think it's a bit harsh that everybody has something to say to him (when most were in his position at some point).

Flukeblake finds the whole situation unfair because he finds it hard to understand what he is doing wrong. He is not at an age yet where he can understand others and treat them with respect.

I think we should stop humouring him and leave the situation to the moderators.

But I think Chicky's post said things much better than I--and I agree entirely.


DGMacphee,  can *I* call you Sir Spank-A-Lot? 

[[Cameron]]

Babar: It was a typo but I like how it turned out.
Flukeblake: When I started here I was pretty immature, still am really, but after listening to what the guys were saying and seeing how others acted on here I've turned into the wonderful guy I am today. You can be just like me!

...

Maybe thats not such a good idea.

[jetxl]

I think Flukeblake feels angry and humiliated because moderators keep locking/moving his threats.
Flukeblake, don't be. The moderators have no personal grudge against you.

[AGA]

Indeed. We only have a grudge against that bastard Pumaman.

* AGA shakes fist.

Daaaamn him!

[DGMacphee]

DGMacphee,  can *I* call you Sir Spank-A-Lot? 

My room number is 233. You bring the champagne and I'll supply the handcuffs.

[hedgefield]

Is there really no forum safe from these quarrels? *Sigh*

I was gonna post some semi-educational rant about nettiquette, but I figured he gets the point. 'Nuff said in this thread...