Why is this age limit set dammit!?

[Ishmael]

Oh, and it's spelled "damnit"

[Blackthorne]

Let me take this moment to point out the Member EINOO - he is very young. Ã, Read some of his posts, one that comes to mind is his recent post about Star Wars Episode III. Ã, It is extremely well written, has a sense of humour and maturity beyond his years.

Yes, there are young people who can strive for better things. Ã, I think Einoo is a shining example of our younger generation. Ã, 

I liked the analogy I read earlier about "going over to someone's house, jumping on their furniture and demaning pie." Ã, That's a good way to put it. Ã, If you don't like the rules here, go to another forum. Ã, The internet is full of them. Ã, If you truly wish to learn more about AGS and it's inner machinations, I suggest you develop a certain amount of decorum.

They really don't ask much here - post mature, make sure it's funny (or helpful - and in DG's case it's NEITHER!!!!!!!!!) and, I like this one, don't pretend to me a MOD. Though some of us established folks are trying to help, I've seen people come off as smarmy.
Seriously, Flukebuke, take a cue from Einoo. Ã, It can be done by someone your age. Ã, 


Bt

[passer-by]

But someone who "hasn't got a proper grasp of the English language who comes in here and demands everyone pay attention without following the rules set here" bugs the hell out of me.

The solar light has reached the outer space twice since I was 16, and I wasn't going to reply to this thread, until I noticed this remark...
I only speak for myself here, but I think people do try to follow the forum rules and use english, even if their posts are not "correct" enough.
I also think that some posts that are thought to be written in overfamiliar, or txt style , or "community" english, may be written from someone who doesn't speak english as a first language (sometimes the "mistake" is the exact translation from another language!)
I hope people here don't really believe that being good at making games depends on the level of written english!

<Note to self>
Ok, cp, enough ranting , get back to work now....


I agree with "without following the rules set here"  , of course

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

CP, the issue here isn't the spelling or the words of even gramatical construction per se. The issue is that Fluke's spelling, which by itself means nothing BUT when combined with the content it has, reveals that here is a person who doesn't really make an effort, and that sort of attitude logically ends up with him bitching about forum rules. DISCLAIMER - I'm only referring to his posts in this thread, I haven't read most of his previous ones.

Take Fmarais, for instance. He's a relatively new member, his spelling and gramatical construction make communication hard quite often, but insofar as I know that has never been an issue (except for the first couple of times he made his appearance, when no one knew him), because, although he sometimes IMHO gets a little "carried away" with stuff, he has... well, he has "behaved", he has accepted and complied with the forum rules. If Fluke had done that much, his spelling would be the least of anyone's worries.

[passer-by]

CP, the issue here isn't the spelling or the words of even gramatical construction per se. ..... his spelling would be the least of anyone's worries.

Well, I know that...but I like hearing it!!Ã, 
I 've seen this language thing mentionned so many times in the forum and it was kind of...intimidating. Not that it stopped me, of course !!
As for Fluke,Ã,  I'm neither his mum nor his concience.

[Ubel]

Fluke I just wanted to say: You are wrong. I'm pretty young but the moderators have never threated me like a garbage. Actually they have been very polite and have helped me with all the problems I've ever posted here. Also if the moderators didn't have the power to lock threads, what would these forums become? No offence but this thread here is a good example of why the age limit is set.

okay, let me start by saying i am a mature person.

If you really were, you wouldn't add "dammit" to the title.

Also, did I read wrong or have you sent insulting PM's to Andail? Do you think that is mature acting?

I'd suggest you to read every single post you have ever sent here. Then think about what you did wrong.

[scotch]

It's not to do with age at all, or English ability, it's not even to do with if you can make interesting or useful posts; you can get on fine here without any of that. Ã, But when your posts are locked, even if you disagree that they should have been, attacking moderators will only make things worse for you. Ã, We don't lock posts because we are assholes as your PMs insinuate, we do it because thats one of the reasons this forum stays as nice and friendly as it is... how many other amateur game developing communities meet up in real life twice a year, know most of the other members on a first name basis, have never banned anyone and so on? Ã, It might not make sense to you, what were your posts doing to harm that? Ã, Basically we need to keep a certain level of maturity and post quality throughout the forums, if we didn't we'd have hundreds of (probably younger) members starting threads like "Post your fone" which don't foster any discussion and it ends up becoming a communityless general chat forum where nobody reads one anothers posts and no good games are ever made, see the Game Maker forums.
You might not get it, but you have to live with it. Ã, What I'd recommend is working on your game and getting that released, people tend to be more accomodating to people who have produced things with AGS, and to try to write topics you start as best you can, it's easy to overlook the sensible question in a thread that is written like yours have been.

[Domino]

Is this guy (Flukeblake) one-eyed ISP provider who put hundreds of crap posts in beginers forum about a week ago?

No that was Sotoeovoeon. Thankfully he hasn't posted in awhile.

Fluke, grow up and act mature or stay immature and please don't post again.

Maybe you can find another forum to join for now (Sesame Street) and maybe return here when you're a little older.

[Pumaman]

oh no, there'd be a teensylittle bit of spam or a tiny excerpt of swear (which there is heaps of anyway). Well booooooooooooooo-hooooooooooo. Call Superman, so he can stop the wrath of evil threadstarters. Godspeed! Rules were made to be broken.

These forums originally had no moderators, and it worked well like that for about a year. But as a community grows, it starts to attract spammers and trolls, and moderators are necessary in order to keep the forum from turning into a mess.

A lot of the work the moderators do, you'll never see. Deleting spam as soon as it appears, PM'ing members who are acting out of line, and so on; if they do things right, you won't know that they're doing anything at all.


Think of the age limit here a bit like a the age to buy beer in a pub. Technically you have to be 18, but in reality so long as you look and act 18, the barman will serve you. Making sure that your posts here follow the golden rule of being interesting, helpful or funny is a good way to start. As has been mentioned, nobody is interested in a "post what mobile phone you have here" thread.

[Nacho]

This is just to make clear that my spelling mistakes are unintentioned.

[shitar]

Wait you mean this guy DOSENT enjoy being treated like garbage? 

I loved it. Honestly

[Al_Ninio]

If no moderators "policed" the forums, or at least they didn't have the power of the 'Lock Thread' option, these threads would be so much better.

Then why did you ask to be one?
I smell hypocrisy!

[RickJ]

But someone who "hasn't got a proper grasp of the English language who comes in here and demands everyone pay attention without following the rules set here" bugs the hell out of me.

The solar light has reached the outer space twice since I was 16, and I wasn't going to reply to this thread, until I noticed this remark...
I only speak for myself here, but I think people do try to follow the forum rules and use english, even if their posts are not "correct" enough.
I also think that some posts that are thought to be written in overfamiliar, or txt style , or "community" english, may be written from someone who doesn't speak english as a first language (sometimes the "mistake" is the exact translation from another language!)

I hope people here don't really believe that being good at making games depends on the level of written english!

cp:  I believe this it is precisely because we have non-native English speakers in our community that it is important to [/color=red]attempt[/color] to communicate clearly.  The lame attempts at being cool are what's being critisized and not anyone's lack of English language skills.   Intentionally using slang, such as "da" instead of "the",  only creates confusion for everyone, especially non-native speakers.   

I have been here for quite a while and I have never ever seen any non-native speaker critisized for his or her lack of English skills.  So cp, please don't feel intimidated.   


Flukeblake: If you act like a retard people will treat you like a retard; not just here but everywhere in life. 

[Andail]

If no moderators "policed" the forums, or at least they didn't have the power of the 'Lock Thread' option, these threads would be so much better.

Then why did you ask to be one?
I smell hypocrisy!

Perhaps he wanted to infiltrate the moderators in order to dissolve us from within, just like that Palpatine did with the jedis. Or R.K Maroon did with Toontown. 

Ok, neither of those examples were very good.

[passer-by]

Perhaps he wanted to infiltrate the moderators in order to dissolve us from within, just like that Palpatine did with the jedis. Or R.K Maroon did with Toontown.Ã, 

And you call that "immature" ? :oÃ,  Practicing these skills is the key to promissing careers , you know!

[Captain Mostly]

hey TheBrat499, I love your avatar.

"I rock... AND roll... ALL day long... Sweet Suzi..."

heh heh heh, that's an excellent film.

[EDIT: Erk! I missed the fact that this thread has three pages and TheBrat499 posted something on the first page only, so that my comment here looks (at best) somewhat loony... sorry everyone...]

[ALSO, I just thought how interesting it was that Flukeblake asked for "anyone who wants to eliminate the evil evil evil forces of Locking Threads send [him] a PM"... What did he plan to do at that point? Become a people's hero and rise up to oust CJ?... I suppose it WOULD rid us of those land taxes we're all subjected to, but could someone so young REALLY be trusted to implement the real-time-lens-flare features we all crave in the next version of AGS?]

[Sam.]

I joined the community at the age of 14, everyone was welcoming and helpful. IF i DID get a topic locked, then I didn't complain, i just listened ot what was said and acted upon it. However, if id joined when i was 11, i would have done exaclty what you have done and been outraged.

You may think you are very mature, and amongst 11 year olds you might be, but amongst a community who are mostly about 20, it seems immature.

Fluke, if i was you, id stop acting all hurt as it gets you nowhere, take on board the advice that has been given to you. Noone is askling you to leave the community, we just want you to respect the rules. Andail, or anyone for that matter, has no grudge against you. He explained why he locked your topics. Its his job for him to enforce the rules, and when you treat the rules as "meant to be broken", then he has to fulfill his duties and put a stop to it. I really think you have potential in this community, but before that you have some growing up to do. go out and find out about girls (or boys).

[PsychicHeart]

i'm 12, turning 13 in about 3 months. ok i realise that's not the point.
wait, here's a good question. I asked a good question in the Critics Lounge, which was "does this picture i drew look good?''. But Andail locked it because he said i was too young, even though i didn't do anything! All i wanted to know was what improvements can be made. However, some guys DID reply decently, but like i said, Andail just locked it for the reason "i was too young". This is the thread so, read that and tell me how innocent moderators are.

[shitar]

i'm 12, turning 13 in about 3 months. ok i realise that's not the point.
wait, here's a good question. I asked a good question in the Critics Lounge, which was "does this picture i drew look good?''. But Andail locked it because he said i was too young, even though i didn't do anything! All i wanted to know was what improvements can be made. However, some guys DID reply decently, but like i said, Andail just locked it for the reason "i was too young". This is the thread so, read that and tell me how innocent moderators are.

dude you're to young I cant believe your parents allow you to use the internet.

- Regards, Teh Troll

[DGMacphee]

This is the thread so, read that and tell me how innocent moderators are.

Andail was right to lock it. Your picture sucks and there's not enough bandwidth here to write a long enough reply on how to improve it.