OMG! They are doing it again... Superman... FLY AWAY!!!:(

LordHart · Mon 31/05/2004 00:47:44

"Superman"
Teen Hollywood reports that Jake Gyllenhaal is reportedly the hot favorite to take over the role of Superman on the big screen. Hollywood insiders claim Ashton Kutcher and Brendan Fraser were both considered to take to the skies as Clark Kent's alter-ego but now the actor, who almost landed the role of Spider-Man opposite his girlfriend Kirsten Dunst, is set to take the role. Meanwhile, Beyonce Knowles and Keira Knightley are being considered as the new Lois Lane in Charlie's Angels director McG's new Superman film.[/i]

For the love of god, what the hell could they be thinking? Donnie Darko as Superman?! Beyonce Knowles as Lois Lane?! Who here thinks that these two would be the most spastic casting rumours of the last few years?

Jake Gyllenhaal, I'll give it to him that he is a good actor, but he is not a Superman... he hasn't got the build, he's not big enough, and hell, he's too creepy and looks like he is always stoned... yeah, great person to play good old Supes!

And then Beyonce Knowles?! God, who the hell came up with that? If I'm not mistaken, the last time I checked one of the Superman comics... LOIS LANE WAS FUCKING WHITE!!! She isn't a crappy R'n'B artist who can't act for shit... didn't they learn their lesson from the god awful Austin Powers: Goldmember? $:-\$

Turning Supes into an anorexic midget and Lois Lane into a black person would have to be some of the worst casting decision that could ever be made in the history of film, no... in the history of... no, wait, yeah... film!

MrColossal · Mon 31/05/2004 00:53:52

does it matter?

and if the lois lane character in a comic is white doesn't mean that the lois character in the movie has to be white.

the same with the new catwoman movie.

eh, so what? is superman all that important of a comic/series of movies that it's "purity" has to be retained?

Kinoko · Mon 31/05/2004 01:10:10

Seriously, this stuff is important whether you're a fan of Superman or not. I'm not, I was never a comic person at all but for the love of kittens and puppies, I'd want to murder someone if all these rumours were true. When you buy the rights of someone else's story (particularly one as huge and influencial as Superman!) you owe it to the the universe to make it as faithful as possible a movie. You can go fucking around with Cinderella and stories like that, because they're old enough and open to interpretation. The Superman (and Spiderman and all those other comic book hero stories for that matter) story is not. It's a story everyone knows to a point and they've already possibly screwed up those important points.

Superman is a big, muscley looking alien, and Lois is a dullish white woman. (They've already screwed the story up enough with that god-awful Smallville garbage).

I hope this is just internet crap as usual. I wouldn't even want to see another bloody Superman movie... just leave things be. Hollywood is being so freaking SAFE lately. I'm so sick of sequels and prequels and retold stories. Hire some freaking original writers for a change!

Las Naranjas · Mon 31/05/2004 01:25:59

Owe it to which universe?

Superman was flawed from the beginning, it's almost impossible to make a change that isn't an improvement.

LGM · Mon 31/05/2004 01:29:25

McG's directing, right there you know it's crap. Regardless of who's playing who.

Also, you quoted me Las.. nice.

LordHart · Mon 31/05/2004 01:44:24

But he quoted you saying that you're a moron...

LGM · Mon 31/05/2004 01:59:53

Since when do people guote falcities.... Oh, wait.. I take that back.

YOke · Mon 31/05/2004 02:07:14

Back when they first started talking about a new Superman flick (3-4 years ago?) there were some rumors of Nic Cage as Superman. That's something I would like to see!
There's supposedly a curse on the role as Superman... Everyone who have played him ends up dead or worse. (Christopher Reeves ended up a bionic dolphin hugger... $:-\$ )
Maybe we should give it to somebody who we don't care too much about.
BTW: The fact that they are still letting McG direct movies is a total mystery to me...

TerranRich · Mon 31/05/2004 02:09:16

You know, what IS it with this trend for Hollywood to replace white characters with African Americans (and other reces)? I mean, yeah, racial equality and all that, but seriously, it ruins it. Lois Lane was always white, was WRITTEN and DRAWN in to be white. Why make her not-white?

Robert Eric · Mon 31/05/2004 02:11:35

Well, why was Kingpin made black in Daredevil?

TerranRich · Mon 31/05/2004 02:27:04

I don't know, Daredevil had Ben Affleck in it, so I didn't watch it.

LordHart · Mon 31/05/2004 02:34:43

Quote from: Robert Eric on Mon 31/05/2004 02:11:35
Well, why was Kingpin made black in Daredevil?

Cause no one is the size of Kingpin, where that body weight is made of mostly muscle... not fat. The only person who could have played him WAS that guy... whats his name... the murderer dude from Green Mile... Duncan Clarke or something. $:-\$

But seriously, making Lois Lane black is a friggin stupid idea...

Nine Toes · Mon 31/05/2004 02:53:47

I also remember a few years ago, I had heard about Nicolas Cage playing Supes.

I'm not a big superman fan, and I never was. But this movie that you're talking about now, is an abomination.

She's hot and she's got a really nice singing voice, but Beyonce as Lois Lane? ...The hell?

I know McG's name also, but I don't think I've seen any of his films... on the other hand, he sounds like he directs pornos, judging by the sound of his name, so maybe I have... *blush*

And lastly, Jake Gyllenhaal? What is with all these nerdy joes taking the roles of superheroes in movies lately? Toby Maguire made me laugh when I heard they were casting him as Peter Parker/Spider Man, but that actually turned out pretty good (as Peter Parker was kind of a nerd, and Maguire's acting was decent). ...but come on, Jake Gyllenhall as Supes? I'd rather see Dean Cain put on the cape again.

Anyway, that's all I have to say.

DGMacphee · Mon 31/05/2004 03:07:56

I don't care whether Lois is black or white. As long as the actor does a decent job, I'm happy.

And Beyonce hasn't got much of a film record to base an accurate judgement.

However, don't base the awfulness of this film on the director, McG, because a director can only do as good a job as the quality of the material he's given. For example, Martin Scorsese has made shitty movies based on shitty scripts.

So, look at the screenwriter: Jeffrey Abrams.

He's a writer for the TV show Alias. He was even nominated for an Emmy.

However, he's also the writer of several crap movies, like Armageddon and Gone Fishin'. He was even nominated for a Razzie for the former.

BUT (and this is a big BUT) he did write the totally awesome Taking Care of Business with James Belushi and Charles Grodin:

After calculating the previous variables, the DGComputer (like the BatComputer, only with more cake) has determined the fate of the Superman project is.......

UNCERTAIN!

Darth Mandarb · Mon 31/05/2004 03:08:07

I can understand some reasons behind doing it (making Lois a black chick):

It might bring in more black folk to watch the movie instead of a bunch of 30 year old white super-nerds.Ã,Â The bigger your audience, the more money you make.Ã,Â And we all know that's all hollywood cares about.

Or they think they're being clever and unique by altering the story a little.Ã,Â Like soooo many movies have done in the past which just goes to prove that originality is damn near dead.

I could really care less about who plays super man because I probably wouldn't go see the movie anyway.Ã,Â So basically I could care less if Bay-Once played Lois ... I just don't see the reason to make it a black person.

I think it's just the current (pathetic) trend to be politically correct.Ã,Â Oooh ... we're not racist, we made Lois Lane black!!

Woopity-Fu&*ing-Doo.

I'm going to make another sequel to Shaft and the lead role will be played by Jim Carrey.

Aren't I clever??

Esseb · Mon 31/05/2004 03:24:02

Can't be much worse than the Samuel L. Jackson movie.

I'd like to see a blaxplotation version of Superman called Superfly.

MrColossal · Mon 31/05/2004 03:32:11

what in the holy hell are you all talking about?!

I am so confused where you people are pulling this whole "gotta be politically correct" bullshit out of.

Where in that quote does it say that "In order to be politically correct Lois Lane will be played by a black actress."

Did everyone skip over the fact they a white woman is being considered for the role also?

Jesus you people are crazy.

And Darth where are you getting this trend idea from? What movies have you seen recently that were based off of an older story where they changed the character's for the express purposes of being politically correct?

Spiderman? X Men? The Hulk? Great Expectations? Macbeth? Lord of the Rings?

Ultimo, I doubt it and I bet you 56 million dollars, no fooling, that the only reason Michael Clarke Duncan was chosen isn't cause "Well, he's big like Kingpin....." Do you know how many actors there are in the world? Do you know how many white people there are that could have filled that roll?

Kinoko: "Seriously, this stuff is important whether you're a fan of Superman or not."

But this isn't important! On the list of Important Things In The World "Who plays Lois Lane" I think is number... Hmm carry the two... 54 Trillion 8 Million 9 hundred and 7. It just beat out "Who plays Superman."

Good lord you people, as I said before, are crazy!

DGMacphee · Mon 31/05/2004 03:42:53

QuoteGood lord you people, as I said before, are crazy!

No, YOU'RE the crazy person, you crazy person, you!

See! Look at how insane you are!

In any case, I agree. For example, I don't think then picked MCD because he was black. I think they picked him because he's a FUCKING HUGE GUY!

See! Look how DAMN HUGE the guy is! He can even cary smaller people on his back:

And if Andre the Giant taught us anything, it's giant people gain respect cause they can not only carry smaller people on their back but can squash the LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU!

And Jim Carrey as Shaft would be great! "Alllllllrighty then, motherfuckers!"

Darth Mandarb · Mon 31/05/2004 04:31:09

Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 31/05/2004 03:32:11And Darth where are you getting this trend idea from? What movies have you seen recently that were based off of an older story where they changed the character's for the express purposes of being politically correct?

I hated that in Jurassic Park II they made Dr. Malcom's daughter black (she wasn't in the book, her friend was).

Or on the new Battlestar Galactica they made Starbuck a women because women in the original weren't the warriors.

Shit like that pisses me off.Ã,Â Not because of skin color or sex, but because doing it to be PC is dumb.Ã,Â But hey, that's just my opinion.

They're so concerned about offending people that they make changes that offend some people.Ã,Â And the people who get offended are the true fans, who should be the people they're making the movie for!

Maybe they should let Bay-Once play superman ... I think, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that Shuster and Siegle were black women weren't they?

Peter Thomas · Mon 31/05/2004 04:40:15

I don't have a probem with a black lois. I just have a problem with a Beyonce lois. I didn't really like her in Austin Powers, and I doubt I'll like her any more when she tries to pull off the 'independant yet quietly love-seeking' lois, with all the sly wit of a mushroom.

I don't think she'd have anything to do with political correctness or whatnot, I think it's just trying to get Beyonce fans (For some reason there are a lot of them) to come and watch a crap movie with a semi-attractive black woman with big ears sauntering her bootyliscious arse around Daily Planet.

As you may have guessed, I hope the white girl gets the part...