( Warning : About racism ) Please tell me this is some terrible hoax.

Started by Queen Kara, Mon 07/06/2004 23:39:39

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shbaz

Quote from: SSH on Tue 08/06/2004 21:54:26But if you can't poke fun at the things you despise, what can you poke fun at?

Friends, odd social habits, racial differences, standard comedy routines.

I can't really laugh about Hitler, it's hard for me to disregard the millions who died. It's odd that it isn't so with the WTC disaster though.. maybe because I feel like it's partly my tragedy too. WWII is in the past and didn't affect me, but the WTC attack did and so I feel I have a right to comment about it as I please. Maybe the Jew you mention felt the same way. BTW if you wonder what I mean when I talk about joking about the WTC attack I mean airport security, jesting about bringing bombs into airports, etc. It's been done a lot.
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InCreator

Ah. Sites like this should be just ignored. The more attention they get, more such things will appear. Like after this thread, every reader checks out the page, visitor counter shows bigger number and freaky people behind all of this rub their White hands.
Eck.

Hitler pics are quite funny and serve useful purpose of reminding humankind some things learned from this worldwide genocide sixty years ago.

stuh505

Kara, you thought there were people maliciously sabotaging alternate-view sites?  Certainly not the police...they go for child porn and sometimes bestial porn but that's because those things are illegal...opinions are not illegal. 

Anyway...this is definitely not a "joke / hoax" site.

and I don't understand why everyone thinks it's so controversial....

1. Don't like gay marraige.  ??? So what.  Most of America doesn't...that's why it doesn't exist; a Christian opinion.

2. Don't like racial mixing.  A bit wierd, not my opinion...but nothing wrong with this opinion...sounds pretty Christian.

3. Want less immigration.  I know a lot of Americans who would agree with this also...nothing against foreigners, but when immigration is largely one-way, it begins to cause crowding...

4. Don't want non-European immigration.  This is racist.  But it's not "hate", and not very extreme...

5. Want less money spent on certain Indian funds.  They believe this to be a waste of money.  I haven't looked into this so I can't put my opinion here...

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So what do you have?  A website with mostly Christian and/or Republican ideas.  I'm neither, but a good many people are...

DGMacphee

Racism and hate are different things??? That's news to me.

As for making fun of Hitler and other atrocities: I'm the kind of person who thinks some humanity and compassion is spared when you can at least laugh in the face of war or horror.

As long as people can still find humour, we can cope with anything.
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MrColossal

1: Yes it does Stuh! Woo hoo! Finally!

Meanwhile other countries totally surpass the US when it comes to Freedom which is why I'm totally confused as to why the US is called the land of the free...

anyways:

http://www.titler.com/

and more specifically: http://www.titler.com/about.html
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shbaz

Gay Marriage is also about to be offered by the Cherokee Nation (Native American Tribe, I live in the capitol). Because of the way the language works and the way the law is written, it is possible for gays and lesbians to marry. A license was issued a couple of weeks ago.

Native American tribes are seperate entities from the US government and are allowed to do many things illegal by US law, such as their casinos and cockfights (and now gay marriage).
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stuh505

Colossal: yeah...I don't think many educated people still consider America the land of the free since Bush2. 

Your website scares me too much to press any of the buttons...whatever joke it is, it's not worth it...

Macphee:

QuoteRacism and hate are different things??? That's news to me.

yeeah.....

Racism is when you judge people of different races as if they have different ability levels (either worse OR better), or make separations based on race.

Racism has absolutely nothing at ALL to do with hatred...the only thing they have in common is that if you are a race-hater you are also probably (but not necessarily) a racist.  It would be possible to be a race-hater and not racist if you acknowledged that you had no rational reason for hating the race.

I'm not a race hater, but I am a racist, and I'm not afraid to deny it.  I make judgements on people based on their race.  And not only that, I make judgements based on their sex, based on what kind of car they drive, based on where they live, based on what music they listen to, based on what their hobbies are, based on their GPA, based on their friends, based on their significant others, based on their jobs.

Yes, I do these things.  And anyone who doesn't is either blind, a liar, or a hypocrite.

stuh505

QuoteNative American tribes are seperate entities from the US government and are allowed to do many things illegal by US law, such as their casinos and cockfights (and now gay marriage).

I can see why they dont want to give them more money

Moox

I dont see anything wrong with gay marriage. The first amendment seperates church and state. If people are against it because of "religion" then that shouldnt mean its illegal. My oppinion is that if it doesnt affect me, then let them. What has a gay person ever done to you? And all you homophobs should realize that married gay men are less likely to check you out. I dont want any of you all to accuse me of being gay because of this post, Im just speaking for the rights of freedom.

I have made political sites before, I must tell you that the people who visit them ususally have racist and hatefull veiws. Thats their right, you cant go making fun of them because they think differently.

I really dont see why anyone hates certain groups. Africans, Arabs, etc... Lets face it, the human race started in that part of the world, people cant be dissing on their roots. I loathe people who are racist, homophobic, and think they are better then others. Why do so many people hate commies? Russia wasnt a commie nation under stalin! America never went to war with Russia. America went to war with france and england before, but I dont see people dissing on the europeans. Humans are ignorrant and need to learn how to accept cultures. In the perfect world, there wouldnt be a master race, it would be a 32bit world, millions of colors, but no hate.

DGMacphee

Ah, Stuh. You gotta love someone who can rationalise racism. It's just like Christians who say "I don't hate homosexuals. I just hate homosexualisty".

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Moox

Quote from: kl4Uz on Tue 08/06/2004 21:39:01
many of our grandparents actually were Nazis or fought in the Wehrmacht
I wouldnt care about that really, at least they showed respect for their nation. Hitler was a great leader, just really messed up in the head. He killed the jews, not the random ss guy in bastogne or austria. Most of you need to do some research. Hitler isnt the biggest killer, just the most well known. The american indians were persecuted, the people forced into arenas by rome, Stalin killed millions in russia, Saddam killed many, The fricking pope ordered crusades on Muslims. Look into the pages of the bible and you will see massive murders. God killed almost everyone in a flood. Everyone has a secret past they need to live with. keep it in your head so you dont repeat it, but dont go bringing it up.

Bob The Hun

It seems that the topic of Hitler jokes stopped a little while back in the topic, but I just remembered something so I'm posting about it anyway.
Completely forgot who the quote was from, but I think it applies to the subject of Hitler jokes:
"Just as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, mockery is the sincerest form of disparagement."

InCreator

Quote...you will see massive murders...
Good point, LostTraveler. There has always been more sick people than Hitler was and will be in future.
As far as WWII goes, I think that "Enola Gay" crew that dropped out atomic bomb over Hiroshima were alot more murderers than Hitler was. They caused more horror and death in 2 minutes than Hitler caused in five years. Why not post their pictures? Or Truman's? Or pick another random mass murderer? Hitler is just popular in some way, IMO.

DGMacphee

QuoteWhy not post their pictures? Or Truman's?

QuoteThe american indians were persecuted, the people forced into arenas by rome, Stalin killed millions in russia, Saddam killed many, The fricking pope ordered crusades on Muslims. Look into the pages of the bible and you will see massive murders. God killed almost everyone in a flood

So, "why don't we mock those people?" is what you're asking.

Well, for one thing, look at the context of the threads. The first one (the Brazillian one) was due to someone referencing a Nazi propaganda poster and it went from there. This thread turned into a Hitler pic-fest because someone mentioned the Brazillian thread.

Having said that, I'm sure there have been times in the past when we've mocked God or Saddam (remember the comparisons to Santa?) or any number of targets.

Some people just assume we do nothing but post photoshops of Hitler all the time just because two or three threads (out of a gargillion threads) have a few pics that mock him.
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Peter Thomas

oh, you mean you DO have other past-times?

Damn... I guess that means I have to go get a job... :(
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DGMacphee

Surprisingly, yes, I do other things than mocking Hitler.  ;D
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remixor

Quote from: stuh505 on Wed 09/06/2004 05:37:47Yes, I do these things.Ã,  And anyone who doesn't is either blind, a liar, or a hypocrite.

Ah, the classic internet disclaimer... "If you say you don't do [whatever] too, you're in denial!!!"

You can't just justify any behavior you like by claiming that everyone else does it secretly as well.
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Andail

There are probably more hate/racism sites out there than the opposite. Probably because the morons and racists browse more intensely, they spend more time spreading their hidious views and beliefs, and they are much noisier in everything they do.

Nacho

Quote from: InCreator on Wed 09/06/2004 06:45:30
As far as WWII goes, I think that "Enola Gay" crew that dropped out atomic bomb over Hiroshima were alot more murderers than Hitler was. They caused more horror and death in 2 minutes than Hitler caused in five years. Why not post their pictures? Or Truman's? Or pick another random mass murderer? Hitler is just popular in some way, IMO.

I think 6,000,000 jews were killed by Hitler's decission, whereas in Nagasaki and Hiroshima died about 50,000.

That means Hitler's most important decission in the war killed 120 more times than Truman's. I simply don't know if you're not good in maths or history.

In adittion...

2,000,000 japs killed. (They caused the death of 11,500,000 chinese--->Who after being liberated started killing Tibetans  :P)

Whereas the deaths caused by Hitler were: 29 M of Russians, 6.25 M of Polish, 6 M of Germans, 1.66 in Yugoslavia...

I could go on, but, again, the cyfer is overwhelming.

So, please... Do not compare Truman with Hitler...  :P
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