james bond, in Tv

Started by BlackMan890, Sun 05/09/2004 22:47:45

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Privateer Puddin'

Hotspots reply was probably down to my original post, where i just stated 'Casino Royale', not knowing there was a later movie with the same name.

Shattered Sponge


Flippy_Unplugged

Pierce Brosnan is the best Bond. Reason being, He captures the complete bastard side of him that is addressed in the novels. The only real time it's been done elsewhere was Connery's "Because I had to" when he shot the man in the swamp in Dr. No.

People claim Connery because he IS Connery, the great actor and the original Bond. However, Brosnan captures Bond perfectly, the nuances and style. His films have also been some of the best. Tomorrow Never Dies and TWINE were decent if not spectacular, but Goldeneye was a stunning Bond flick, easily one of the best. DAD had good elements (the imprisonment start was a great touch) but wasn't nearly as accomplished as the others in his reign.

Best Bonds:
Pierce Brosnan
Connery
Dalton (OHMSS was awesome!)

Best Films:
The Man with the Golden Gun (irony, I know)
Goldeneye
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
From Russia With Love
Live and Let Die

*Stamps with 'OFFICIAL'*

Nacho

Indy's dad is the best, IMHO. When Bond Connery enters in a place, you know there are going to be kills and deaths, whereas Moore uses more charm. Pierce is very good too. Timoty was ok... Good lord, I like them all, except that Aussie, I know he preformed Bond once, but I can't remember the film.

And Peter Sellers was very good to. I liked when he disguised as a Indian support actor to investigate the parties of the cinema stars. I loved the scene with the donkey.
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Mr Jake

the early movies are by FAR better than the later ones.

SSH

Quote from: Flippy_Unplugged on Mon 06/09/2004 12:37:13
Dalton (OHMSS was awesome!)

OHMSS was Lazenby

Dalton did Living Daylights and Licence to Kill

The real question is, which was the best bond song?

IMHO:

1. Goldeneye (duh-du-du-du na-naaah)
2. We have all the time in the world (OHMSS)
3. Goldfinger
4. Live and let die
5. Tomorrow never dies
6. The Man with the Golden Gun
7. The World is Not Enough
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PaulSC

This isn't a very interesting opinion, but... I say Brosnon is the best Bond, but he's unfortunatly been often wasted in what are basically fun, but generic modern action movies.

Having said that, I do think that for pure entertainment value Golden Eye and Tommorow Never Dies are close to the top of the Bond heap. TWINE was a godawful mess, though. Haven't seen DAD yet.

And I'm pissed off that this Tarantino/Brosnon/Casino Royale thing isn't going to happen, given that the Bond producers appear to be the only people on this planet of ours that don't think it's a great idea.

Best Bond song? You Only Live Twice, of course!

Nacho

I can't really put Pierce in the top because the last film has been so so so lame... It's  been kinda "Riddick" with all that "Iceberg surf" stuff and all that... It annoyed me a lot.
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SSH

Pierce's Bond films have always been going downhill, but all of the first three were good.

James Cameron gave the Bond franchise a kick up the bottom when he came up with True Lies. Goldeneye was a great movie as it had to compete with that. But when was the last non-Bond decent spy action movie? XXX maybe... Bourne? These movies still lose out to a TV series in terms of excitement and I think its "24" that the Bond producers should be taking notes on.

And who should be the next bond? Bloom, Gruyffd and Farrell are too skinny, Bale and Owen are too bulky,  Jackman and Dougray Scott both look awkward in posh suits, Eric Bana possibly, but I think Ewan McGregor has the suaveness required better than any of the others. I actually think that Robbie Williams could do a good job, too.
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veryweirdguy

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Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.

Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.

Sean Connery was British. They all were.

I think what you MEAN is that Connery was Scottish, whereas the rest were English.

Anyway, my favourite Bond's were Connery & Brosnan (surprise surprise). Although I often wonder if as many people would like Connery if he weren't the first Bond, he was the one to set the trend.

I think if Lazenby had done more than one he could have been a good Bond, & certainly more memorable. But he quit after doing one because his agent told him "there was no future in this type of movie"(apparantly). Man, I hope he fired that agent.....

I think my least favourite Bond was Roger Moore. He played the part too camp in my opinion, and went for the comedy side rather than the action, which is not the direction for the films in general. I mean, you wouldn't expect Leslie Neilsen to play Bond would you?

I can hardly remember individual films though, apart from who played Bond in them. I think they're great n all, but they do all follow the same basic formula. There's nothing paticularly wrong with that, it just makes them harder to distinguish.
Quote from: SSH on Mon 06/09/2004 14:05:42
These movies still lose out to a TV series in terms of excitement and I think its "24" that the Bond producers should be taking notes on.

I don't think the bond movies should take a leaf from 24's book. Part of what makes 24 work is the main character (Jack Bauer, for those keeping score)'s shade-of-grey type personality, in that he won't always do everything......erm.....'by the book' (for want of a better, less cliched phrase). Also, Bond has no normal, civilian life to cope with, no family to protect, etc etc, so the same sense of drama & tension could not be achieved, in my opinion.

But hey, if you're at work/school right now, try this:

Get your colleagues to name as many of the Bond films as they can, what year they were released, who played Bond & who sang the theme. 20 films (not including Casino Royale), kudos to anyone who gets all 20.

Also, best theme = Live & Let Die. 'nuff said.

DGMacphee

#30
YOU'RE ALL WRONG!!!

Corey Burton was the best James Bond!









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Mr Jake

omg James Bond Junior -_- I used to have the little car from that, it used to be like my favorite toy, it had the wings on the roof and everything

Haddas

I remember that show. It was über awesome. Much like Transformers and Masters of the universe.

Fuzzpilz

Quote from: SSH on Mon 06/09/2004 14:05:42
I actually think that Robbie Williams could do a good job, too.

Surely you mean Robin Williams.

Shattered Sponge

Quote from: veryweirdguy on Mon 06/09/2004 14:13:53
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.

Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.

Sean Connery was British. They all were.

I think what you MEAN is that Connery was Scottish, whereas the rest were English.
This issue has already been addressed by someone smarter and more attractive and more charismatic and considerably more correct then yourself.

TO REITERATE, FOR FOOLS:

Even if we ignore both versions of Casino Royale and James Bond Jr, not all the bonds were British: Lazenby is Australian and Brosnan is Irish. Ã, Moore was the only Englishman.

Andail

Quote from: Haddas on Mon 06/09/2004 16:36:25
I remember that show. It was über awesome. Much like Transformers and Masters of the universe.

Blasphemy! Comparing James Bond Jr to Transformers and Heman? You...very young person!!

DGMacphee

Quote from: Andail on Mon 06/09/2004 17:23:46
Quote from: Haddas on Mon 06/09/2004 16:36:25
I remember that show. It was über awesome. Much like Transformers and Masters of the universe.

Blasphemy! Comparing James Bond Jr to Transformers and Heman? You...very young person!!

Yeah, I wouldn't actually say it was uber awesome. Just he was the best of the Bonds. The show itself wasn't very dazzling, much like The Karate Kid cartoon.
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veryweirdguy

Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Mon 06/09/2004 17:10:57
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Mon 06/09/2004 14:13:53
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.

Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.

Sean Connery was British. They all were.

I think what you MEAN is that Connery was Scottish, whereas the rest were English.
This issue has already been addressed by someone smarter and more attractive and more charismatic and considerably more correct then yourself.

Sorry, Sponge, I just skipped your post because I don't like you very much. :P I read the bit where you said you didn't like Connery & then dismissed the rest of your post as 'ptosh' (yes, ptosh) as anyone who doesn't like Connery is clearly dilousional.

Rincewind

Holy poop on a stick - As an old James Bond fanatic who's interest recently awoke again, I cannot do anything but answer to this.

First of all, the best Movie Bond to me is both Sean and Roger. When the two of them are at their best, the compliment each other perfectly. Connery as the ruthless macho agent who spits out onliners as he knocks out the henchmen, and then there's Moore, as the perfect english gentleman, who always keeps his cool.
I'd call it a draw. Comparing Connery's best scenes to Moore's best scenes just ends up in me being confused and torn...

Lazenby wasn't all that bad as he's been reputed to be either, his job in OHMSS was good, methinks - I f he hadn't jumped off the series, I think he could have grown into the part nicely.

Dalton is a hard one - He's brilliant in TLD, and captures Bond perfectly, with both humour and a cold Fleming-ish chill, although he fails to reach those heights in the far worse LTK, which feels like an ordinary, run-of-the-mill action movie with a main character whose name just happens to be James Bond.

Brosnan is perhaps even harder to judge. He felt a bit stiff and unaccustomed to the role in GE, but got better and better in TND,Ã,  TWINE and DAD. (Which is on the whole one of the worst Bond Movies, in my opinion...) If it wasn't for the announcement of his "resigniation", I would definately like to see him go on for another one, not just for his improvement in the role, but also for the sake of continuity.

Oh dear, this turned out to be a longer rant than I expected... Oh well... :)
You only live twice, after all.


Bond Quote for the day:
"Ah, Mr. Bond... You appear with the tediousness as that of an unwanted season."

Mephistophilis

Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish.

What's THAT Supposed to Mean, eh? heh,
Connery all the way, you foreigners! He was the original Badass Bond!
When did the Bond films stop being Fleming Creations?
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