First attempt at a background

PaulyB · Fri 30/09/2005 14:59:39

Hey, this is my first attempt at drawing a background and wondered if i could get some feedback, i know theres not much to it at the moment but just wanted to see if i am on the right track with stuff like perspective and colours etc..

Here it is:

As i said, not much to it but any feedback would be much appreciated

Nikolas · Fri 30/09/2005 15:03:52

Well the perspective is right, after all it's just a box...

To be a little picky (it's empty) the door seems to be going in the wall not to come out of it. It should be 2 mm to the right to seem ok.

Change the colour of the window (what is shown outside), cause it's the same as the wall.

The light is on or off? Put some shadows.

If you put more stuff in (like furniture), I think people will be able to tell you more.

I kinda like it though, and I'm not an artist by a million...

PaulyB · Fri 30/09/2005 15:30:13

Cheers for that (speedy) response, I'll post more pics once i've added to it.

P.S. I'm not an artist by a million either (which is prob why its taken me about 12 hours to come up with that $:-\$ )

Krysis · Fri 30/09/2005 15:49:10

It reminds me of my background. The one with the At-At and the Canadian flag.

PaulyB · Fri 30/09/2005 16:04:49

Quote from: Krysis on Fri 30/09/2005 15:49:10
It reminds me of my background. The one with the At-At and the Canadian flag.

Erm yea, I kinda stole the idea from you, only the basic layout mind.. oh and maybe the door

, I hope you dont mind, [sucking up]it's just that i liked yours so much I wanted to do one similar[/sucking up]

Krysis · Fri 30/09/2005 16:11:15

I dont mind but... why not try to make your own rooms? Makes more sence than simply copying.

PaulyB · Fri 30/09/2005 16:23:13

Quote from: Krysis on Fri 30/09/2005 16:11:15
I dont mind but... why not try to make your own rooms? Makes more sence than simply copying.

Because im crap at drawing

but yea i am planning on drawing the rest of the room (and my other rooms) all by myself.
Just out of interest, dou you draw your backgrounds by hand first and then scan them in?

Tuomas · Fri 30/09/2005 16:27:33

Krysis, PayluB too, you know there are a lot more than those two rooms that have a window and a door? At least mine does, and wait... oh, there's a lamp too hanging from the roof. Well how peculiar is that...
Please, cupboard, computer, bed, bunny and a teddy added, then say it's copied... Just to point out...

Krysis · Fri 30/09/2005 16:51:13

Quote from: PaulyB on Fri 30/09/2005 16:23:13
Quote from: Krysis on Fri 30/09/2005 16:11:15
I dont mind but... why not try to make your own rooms? Makes more sence than simply copying.

Because I'm crap at drawingÃ,Â
but yea i am planning on drawing the rest of the room (and my other rooms) all by myself.
Just out of interest, dou you draw your backgrounds by hand first and then scan them in?

Lol, it allmost sounds like I'm some sort of a real artist.

Anyway I just draw a rough layout with bright green lines and then start adding other lines, color, shading. Some of the objects I make separate to make sure it looks good. But I guess you should read a tutorial instead of listening to me - I really aint got enough experience with this.

And a real good advice from me: never use .JPG. It looks horoble and destroys every nice color or line u have into sum fuzzy blur. The .PNG is basicly the best for me.

PaulyB · Fri 30/09/2005 18:25:11

Quote
Lol, it allmost sounds like I'm some sort of a real artist.
Anyway I just draw a rough layout with bright green lines and then start adding other lines, color, shading. Some of the objects I make separate to make sure it looks good. But I guess you should read a tutorial instead of listening to me - I really aint got enough experience with this.
And a real good advice from me: never use .JPG. It looks horoble and destroys every nice color or line you have into sum fuzzy blur. The .PNG is basicly the best for me.

Well i think your backgrounds look good, artist or no artist

Anyway i've added a couple of things to my background, see what you think, its in .PNG format

RyRayer · Fri 30/09/2005 18:39:26

Good, but I think it needs way more things and details.
And that table should be something like this....

good luck

Corey · Fri 30/09/2005 18:41:22

wow its really nice for a 1st room

only you shouldn't copy pictures like the warrior getting hit...

InCreator · Fri 30/09/2005 19:30:39

For a first one, you managed to avoid most of the mistakes newbies usually do, good job.

Notes: (may sound harsh, but are meant to help ya out and for 1st try at CL people usually get even more crits than this)

* The door is wrong. Pull it's bottom part few pixels down, that's the best way to fix the problem (I'm unable to explain it due my lack of english vocabulary) or examine very closely to see this logical error.

* Try to use more er- math - when drawing. The shapes are too abstract, for example, I don't understand why you made panels on door so different? It leaves a "rushed" feeling.

* Get rid of double pixels. It feels almost like a style of yours... but that's not a good way to go. Again, looks too rushed.

* fix the perspective on window. It's bottom line is awfully incorrect... Also, I think that window could be lower and bigger.

* Overall, the room feels too high, including the door.

* Don't use JPG's, they look awful if it comes to pixel art. Save your image either as GIF (if under 256 colors) or PNG (the best IMO, even mspaint on WinXP saves that)

* Using a photo/multicolor poster doesn't quite fit with left of the drawing

* The desk is awful, if it comes to perspective. Also, who puts a desk into a middle of the room?

Scummbuddy · Fri 30/09/2005 20:56:56

I would say that before you go any further, you do need to correct the perspective on the room. Most importantly the bottom window line, but really, make all the diagonal lines flow to one point.

Then you can worry about adding furniture, etc.

That is, unless you don't want to have totally correct perspective...

PaulyB · Sat 01/10/2005 02:28:54

Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate it. I'm trying to take it all on board but I'm confused by a couple of the things you suggested, mainly:

- the bottom window line - i'm not sure how that should look, does the line need to go up or down a bit??

- The desk is awful, if it comes to perspective - after i drew the desk i had a feeling it didnt look right but i wasnt sure what exactly i needed to chage about it, is it too small, wrong angle??

- make all the diagonal lines flow to one point - also this bit of advice conufses me, do you mean i need to make all the lines straight, or shall i make them all point in the same direction??

Thanks again

Paul.

Darth Mandarb · Sat 01/10/2005 02:41:44

Quote from: PaulyB on Sat 01/10/2005 02:28:54- the bottom window line - i'm not sure how that should look, does the line need to go up or down a bit??

- make all the diagonal lines flow to one point - also this bit of advice conufses me, do you mean i need to make all the lines straight, or shall i make them all point in the same direction??

- red lines flow towards the vanishing point. Keeps things in perspective.
- black lines show where the wall, door and window lines should be

So you see, the ceiling lines are off too (I forgot to draw their black lines).

Hope that helps.

Corey · Sat 01/10/2005 08:17:57

wow thats a really cool sulution

ildu · Sat 01/10/2005 09:29:14

What? Haven't you seen vanishing points before?

esper · Sat 01/10/2005 09:31:51

I know, right??? Seriously... That's not a really cool solution. Outside of using 3D or CAD software, it's the ONLY solution...

Krysis · Sat 01/10/2005 09:34:26

Yeah, but try moving the vanishing point down.