Stupid, stupid RPG Maker...

Started by Kinoko, Tue 10/05/2005 05:32:17

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Quote from: 2ma2 on Wed 02/11/2005 09:13:20

Yes, someone may think and regard themselfs as much better writers than artists, but you must still realise that your work is different from everyone elses because it's yours! You are unique, and so is your styles. Ripping means inconsistency, and takes away from the overall feel of a game. It is like making a spartan room design, then putting a big LNES FALARE!!11! all over it to make it look better.

It does not.

Hey thats an interesting point 2ma2 didnt think of it like that, guess some stupid things hold us back sometimes. Thanks.

Quote from: ebby on Tue 01/11/2005 22:25:03

eh, that char in cirque looks suspiciously a lot like guybrush?
and why does the bear look like such a different style than other character sprites in the game, which already look different to other character sprites in the same game?
and why does all the houses in town look completely different than the houses outside?
are you just inconsistent?
:-\

is kiniko hot? else i just dont get al these people making her seem like the goddess of games? so many people idd rather have interviewed.

Anybody that has released a decent game like Cirque is worthy enough to be an AGS god in my opinion. This was by far one of the games that felt to me like a real, authentic "old school" game. Way to go Kinoko!

Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 10/05/2005 05:32:17
I guess as testament to how crap that program is, you just need to look at the games people make with it and the culture that surrounds it. I swear, if I ever met anyone who made a game with all their own graphics and sounds and programming, I'd turn into a penguin. That whole RPGM culture is stupid, all praising each other for making a pretty looking demo made up of ripped graphics and pre-made chipsets. 75% of the games are Pokemon or Final Fantasy rip offs. ARGH!!!

Is it that they're lazy or it just doesn't occur to them to actually make their own game with their own material? I don't know... I've had it. I've reached the end of my patience.

I realise the community is different, but there is activity and that is good. What is not so good is the fact that they are
all making fan games... This is stupid like you said there own work, and like 2ma2 said is unique and better.

I'll get working on that authentic rpg maker game, I wonder how hot a penguin can be...  :D

Babar

Haha...."Ripping" can be a certain style too. O' course, you have to be consistent in that too. And make a point, too. I suppose it wouldn't work well in a serious game.
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The biggest thing I hate about the community (and remember I've been part of it for over 5 years) is the type of people it draws... Since the RM is usually pretty easy to use, any 10 year old with internet access can get a hold of it. And it's usually out of laziness they rip or use the RTP.

However, these people are dubbed n00bs for their use of the RTP, people will not even play a game if they find it uses the RTP, it could be the best game ever put out by a user, but if it's RTP it is then crap and must be destroyed.

Generally, it is an engine that works best when you have multiple people working on it, for music, graphics, and so on. It's generally long work making a sprite sheet, or even worse a tile set... hundreds of 16X16 (or in XP 32X32) tiles take a very long time, especially when you need them to tile, but not look like they tile.

So basically, it is a younger community than AGS, and therefore is less tolerant of less than perfection. While people here appreciate the story and gameplay aspects, there they expect perfect graphics, perfect stories, and perfect music. Here if it is playable, and altogether fun, it is accepted, and even if it needs improvement, the more mature userbase here will give suggestions of HOW to make it better, not just
Code: ags
OMG U N00B STFU RTFM!!!
(coded to preserve the leet.

When I first started in the community, I was making an game using nothing but the RTP, just to prove an excellent game could be made using it. All that I trusted that read my script (135 page word doc) loved it, when I showed off my maps, people commented on how I was using the RTP properly. Unfortunately it never was released due to a HDD wipe I had to do, due to a nasty little virus I picked up somewhere. I had a chance to hopefully change the community for the better, but that fell through.

I'm more of a fringe memeber now... I still patrol the forums of the site to keep the jerks in line, and I'm always on the IRC channel, mostly because I like the people. I bought the legal english RMXP most likely, I'll make a game in it... in fact I already have one started, but as I said, until I get into ruby and have time to learn, I will most likely just go with the defaults... which the community will hate... but hell, I'm 28 I have 3 kids... what is a 12 year old going to say to me to make me feel bad about myself?

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