Paranormal events? Have you had yourself any?

Started by Nikolas, Tue 22/11/2005 23:50:32

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Nikolas

Well. I try to keep an open mind and not disregard antyhing without much thought.

I also try to use logic and reason everything I see.

I've never seen anything even close to paranormal. And by paranormal I mean anything that I can't explain, a ghost, a UFO, ET, zombies, or anything from the land of fantasy.

Yet I've heard stories from people who know somebody who saw something.

Well! I can't buy this anymore. I want first hand experience.

I will always leave an open door, for the chance of anything weird happening but still I don't believe in anything (using logic, cause otherwise I do believe in God).

So has anybody have any paranormal/weird experience. Rharpe, do you have any proof of God? (Not that you, or I or anybody need one, but...). Esper, what about you? Anybody? Any real proof?

Evil

#1
My girlfriends house is haunted. There are two or three kids that like to run around and laugh. I've witnessed it firsthand. Well, I've heard them before, but never seen them. However my girlfriend sees them from time to time, as does her mother. I can recall one event in particular. One time it was just my girlfriend and I in her house, doors locked (and this I am positive of). Well, we were in her basement and you could hear them running around upstairs. My girlfriend shouted, "I'm gonna kill you!" They giggled and left us alone.

My uncle also had a ghost living with him. He was the only one who lived in his house and the ghost, which everyone called Casper, would steal my uncles keys and hide them. Typically just move them from room to room, and occationally put them in drawers.

I don't have any proof other then witnessing, but it was enough for me.

Also, I watched a show on the History Channel awhile back about what they refered to as "The Russian Roswell". Something about the Russians admitting they have alien technology or something. Anyone else catch this or have heard of it? I don't recall the exact city or base where it took place.

edit: spelling

Andail

Quote from: Evil on Wed 23/11/2005 00:24:18
My uncle also had a ghost living with him. He was the only one who lived in his house and the ghost, which everyone called Casper, would steal my uncles keys and hide time. Typically just move them from room to room, and occationally put them in drawers.

I think this particular ghost haunts me too, from time to time

kadok


paranormal experience...I'm afraid but there is no such think like paranormal experience, why?, because if something is happenig its normal and natural, only observer didn’t understand it. Ã, 

Is UFO exist?

Is zombies exist?

Are there any monster in the lake?

Sure there are

Everything on the sky what we don’t recognize is UFO

Zombies, we all are zombies,

Monsters in the lake, ameba or some other parasite are quite deadly

So you see, look around and you will see Ã, many strange thinks,

and remember one think:

Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã, reality is stranger than fiction

Ã,  Ã, 
sorry for may english... it's not my native language so I may make some mistake's

Kinoko

Have to say, I don't believe in anything that can't be explained logically with science. But I do like hearing people's ghost stories :) . . . during the day.

Squinky


Mr Jake


Kinoko

Pff.

Science isn't proven wrong, people's various theories are. Science is what exists.

Helm

WINTERKILL

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens


Domino

I work with a guy who says he has been attacked by demons, and he is really against quidji boards (spelling?) I believe him, but really don't want to discuss more than that with him.

I am also against those boards, who knows what kind of hellgate i might be opening.

MrColossal

"Few people who have investigated Ouija boards from a skeptical viewpoint accept that a piece of cardboard sold as a game can conjure spirits, evil or benevolent. The accepted theory among psychologists and skeptics is that the participants are subconsciously making small, involuntary, physical movements using a well-known, and well-understood, phenomenon called the Ideomotor effect. Experiments consistently suggest that, at best, the messages are received involuntarily from the participants themselves, and, at worst, by a manipulative player, possibly with the connivance of confederates within the group present."

"when blindfolded, Ouija board operators are unable to produce intelligible messages."

Why no demons at all it seems!
"This must be a good time to live in, since Eric bothers to stay here at all"-CJ also: ACHTUNG FRANZ!

mozza

I once had and experience of which I don't know if it is real or just my imagination.
I was about 10 years old when I was woken up by a loud sharp noise. I realised it to be my dog, who has barking madly. I went outside to calm her down and I found her standing, half stiffened, barking at a semi-transparent figure. I saw it for a brief moment before it turned (?) and started floating (?) through the fence. I saw that my dog was fine now, and so I returned to my bed and went into a deep slumber.
A teacher when I was back in primary school once told me of a ghost he had apparently encountered.
He used to live in England, and one night when he was riding home on his motorcycle he saw a pale girl on the side of the rode waving at him. It was raining and no-one else was around so he went over to see what she wanted. She wanted to get a lift home, and seeing as her house was on the way home, he let her onto the back of his motorbike and set off on his journey. He arrived at her house and stopped. He then realised that she wasen't on his bike anymore, so he went back to try and find her. He failed to find her and so he went to the address told to him by the girl. He knocked on the door and an old lady opened it. He told her of the unfortunate accident and her face grew paler and paler each word. She then told him how her daughter had died in a by falling off the back of her boyfriend's motorbike two (2) years ago.

Even though there is not any evidence that these actually happened, for some reason they seem to be etched into my skull as if they were taught to me by an old wise mentor.

rharpe

What kind of proof do we need to know that God exists?

- Look at nature and how perfectly it's been designed, (down to the very cells, atoms, etc.)
- The archeologists of now-a-days are finding more and more evidence that the Bible is more accurate then previously thought by non-believers.
- The uncorruptible bodies of some saints.
- Miraculous events like Fatima in Portugal in 1917, (witnessed by thousands of people.)
- Stigmatas of St. Padre Pio.
- Demons are proof that supernatural beings and God exists.
"Hail to the king, baby!"

Helm

QuoteLook at nature and how perfectly it's been designed, (down to the very cells, atoms, etc.)

argument from awesome game design.

QuoteThe archeologists of now-a-days are finding more and more evidence that the Bible is more accurate then previously thought by non-believers.


argument from Indiana Jones.

QuoteThe uncorruptible bodies of some saints.


argument from good nutrition.

QuoteMiraculous events like Fatima in Portugal in 1917, (witnessed by thousands of people.)


Argument from obscurity.

QuoteStigmatas of St. Padre Pio.


Argument from Bad hollywood filmmaking.

Quote- Demons are proof that supernatural beings and God exists.

Argument from Hyperlink.
WINTERKILL

Darth Mandarb

#15
One time I awoke from a sleep and found myself unable to move ...

I was able to adjust the position of my eyes just enough to notice a small red colored figure standing on my chest.  I could actually feel the pressure of his little feet on my sternum.  The small man said nothing, made no noise ... but I could tell he was just staring at me.  (I could just barely make him out in my periphery).  I couldn't look right at him.

I closed my eyes and summoned every ounce of strength and will power I could and made myself move.  I jolted my eyes open and swatted across my chest and I hit ... air.  Nothing there.  The red man had gone.

A few years later I awoke to the same phenomenon and couldn't move ...

I was laying on my back, with my head turned to face the door ... our small cat (which we affectionately called Garbage Kitty 'cause my brother found her in a dumpster.  She walked on three legs 'cause her front left paw was mangled somehow ...) Anyway ... she (Garbage Kitty) was slowly approaching my bed ... stalking ...

She pounced on the bed and started tearing the flesh off my face with her one good clawed hand.  Hissing and spitting and scratching away.  I tried to scream but couldn't ... the pain was VERY real.  Once again I forced my eyes closed and plunged my mental bucket deep into the well of my will power and threw my eyes open and jumped out of bed ... once again ... nothing there and no scratches on my face.

I was convinced I had experienced some strange paranormal events here ... until, a few years later, I learned of a scientifically proven condition called "sleep induced paralysis" (or some such) where you are, physically, in a waken dream state ... your body is still asleep, but your mind is aware of being awake yet not fully outta the dream.

So ...

A few months later it happened again!

This time I awoke, unable to move, facing my window ... which was odd because it was open and I wouldn't have my window open in the middle of December winter in Michigan!  (for those who don't know ... that'd be like sleeping in a freezer)

A huge dragonfly flew in through the window and starting hovering over my face ... it had gigantic fangs and was buzzing and bobbing over me.  Its drool was dripping all over my face ... I sensed great peril without knowing why ... I knew I was in grave danger.  But at the same time I knew it was a dream because 1) the window was open 2) I couldn't move and 3) I had the scientific knowledge of "sleep induced paralysis"

So I dug down deep again and forced my body into motion and threw myself out of bed toward the window and swung around to confirm that the dragonfly was gone ... which of course it was.

Then I realized the cold December air was blowing across my body through the open window ...

Grundislav

Something like that happened to me just this morning!

I don't know if it actually happened or if I was just dreaming, but I could swear that something was putting pressure on the top left corner of my pillow.  I thought to myself "someone is there! I'll look really fast and see who!" but I couldn't move my head.  I didn't feel scared or threatened, though, and went back to sleep or to another dream, so I think it may have just been a realistic dream.

Kinoko

I've had weird things happen to me but nothing I can't explain with coincidence, something unknown (you know, something I don't personally know myself), science, imagination, the brain, inventing memories or ... well, any one of a thousand of other, non-paranormal explanations.

Th intelligent design argument just doesn't sit right with me. I mean, it would take me several years of the most incredibly trying psychologically-straining deep thinking to even come up with a way to start thinking about exactly what's behind the whole universe. I, and nor will any human being I suspect, will never, ever know why the universe exists or even if that's a valid question. I don't care, either. Humans are gonna die out as a species before we get anywhere near to even seriously thinking about considering that question.

However, I don't myself accept intelligent design as a logical argument for the existance of a "god". Some people look at the world and see a bunch of stuff that fits together so well, it must have been thought up. I think a lot of these things are just doing what comes naturally given the laws governing their make up. Some of the laws are just the natural evolution of other laws. I think it comes down to a few laws in the end. Why do they exist? I don't know, but I sure don't see that as a reason to think some guy thought them up. In that case, why do SO many things in the world make such little sense? Religious people would say that it's a mystery... the same as I would call the good things a mystery... nobody knows. Simple as that, but I personally believe it's FAR more likely to be some reason other than a great mind somewhere coming up with them.

Of course, if a god does exist, the question naturally presents itself; who invented god? And so on, and so on. So it's not much of an explanation at all, really. In the end, we don't know shit about exactly why anything is.

Stepping down from that ridiculous question, we DO know that within the laws of nature that govern our universe, there are some things which are just fact. Water heated to 100 degrees will boil, water below zero will freeze. Light travels faster than sound. Earth has gravity and gravity is the reason things fall when you drop them.

Things like that.

Now, we call it science for ease of use but science isn't just plants and physics and guys wearing lab coats. Science is the way things work and everything that is true.

If we did indeed discover that ghosts exist, they too, would be a part of that ever-encompassing word, "science". You could ask exactly what the science behind ghosts is, which is simply a question about everything that makes them up and the various properties of ghosts. Science = the deal with things. Whatever the deal with something is, it's science.

Heck, what's the deal with this stupid TV show? Well, the format of this TV show is following a formulae that has been proven economically to be very popular. It's popular because of various social traits, perhaps the majority of which concern our love of humour. Why do we love humour? Partly because of our history as humans and anscestory, and partly because of the way laughing makes us feel good, which is in turn the result of the biology and chemistry of our bodies.

Etc, etc... that was a really stupid example but everything boils down to various reasons like that.

We don't know them all yet, that's all.

What was my point again? Oh well, I'm gonna go have some chocolate.

Gregjazz

You have to keep in mind that a lot of our perception is "in our head." Just like when you look through a glass window, you see both beyond the window and also a reflection back at you. Just like this, we perceive outside of us, but at the same time we get see a "reflection" back into our minds. Something like that.

Squinky


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