Would you really define this as "vulgar"?

Kinoko · Sat 04/03/2006 01:00:14

Shit, sorry for the double post. I'll edit in something good later but, 200th post!!

MrColossal · Sat 04/03/2006 01:01:54

Modgulator: as far as this thread is concerned, they asked what we thought.

The Inquisitive Stranger · Sat 04/03/2006 01:03:01

Well, unless there's a point in the game where one gets to pop those boobs revealing that they were just balloons all along, I'll probably keep holding my opinions.

MrColossal · Sat 04/03/2006 01:08:02

But after reading this thread, surely you agree all your opinions are wrong!

Kinoko · Sat 04/03/2006 01:11:47

*looks down*

Look, my breasts aren't that much smaller than those ones (admittedly, not as shapely and perky), and I have a friend that's -several- cup sizes bigger than me. She's pretty stacked so I reckon she'd actually beat that woman. Now, if she got herself a really good bra and smooshed them upwards, she'd beat the pants off that nurse (AND she's cute). If she were naked, and her boobs were that perky, I'd say , "Sure, that's unlikely to happen" but she could well have amazing support under that nurses outfit, and have had implants. It's not unrealistic, it's just fantastically uncommon.

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 01:22:29

OSsquinky: if nobody has make a compliment to you about your personality... that's strange. In the relationships I've been, I've made a point of underlining that I find the person pleasing to be with for his various traits and overall personality just as much as I am there because I desire to viciously penis them. In fact, the effect is -*groan*, again this word- holistic. It is not a piece of flesh that also talks and is interesting to listen to, it is a person whose words, outlook, demeanour, amplify desire as much as they originally create it. This is why when sometimes you tell somebody that they are beautiful, when it's that sort of situation, it doesn't just mean 'you're beautiful'. Get? Whereas many people might not be as talkative about these things as me, most sure find ways to express this notion, maybe not with words all the time, but they do. Are you sure you were looking?

The person who said Andail is boasting: do something about your insecurities. Someone saying the truth because it is relevant to a point they're trying to make should not be accused for boasting.

MrColossal · Sat 04/03/2006 01:26:31

"made a point of underlining that I find the person pleasing to be with for his various traits "

You sly dog you!

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 01:28:27

hey, man, gay, straight, whatever. A splendid penis is a splendid penis.

Kinoko · Sat 04/03/2006 01:55:41

Referring to yours or his?

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 01:58:04

Why, do you want my number, Kinoko?

modgeulator · Sat 04/03/2006 01:58:14

Hey, I only felt moved to comment after reading Andail's attack on the creators.

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 02:00:52

QuoteI bet the artists behind the 3D-models of wasp-waisted, balloon-breasted semi-nude creatures referred to as females have hardly been in the same room as a topless woman.

If you mean the attack on the creators of the Element game, learn to read.

modgeulator · Sat 04/03/2006 02:07:45

As if you honestly don't think that attack isn't equally relevant to this game? I can see you're quite capable of reading, but clearly comprehending gives you some trouble.

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 02:11:38

No, it's not. Especially to the extent that it calls for ridiculous ad hominems about him being boastful.

modgeulator · Sat 04/03/2006 02:15:13

I realise Andail is your friend and you feel the need to defend him.

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 02:21:29

Good for you. Also realize that the intention behind opinion here is not on trial, nor is the merit of the personality of he who is speaking. We are discussing opinions about a seperate subject here, a subject with far-reaching implications and various interesting aspects to it. If you have something to add to this, be my guest. If the length of your commentary is exhausted on calling people on being boastful or standing up for their friends, then I think I'm done with you.

modgeulator · Sat 04/03/2006 02:32:32

I still feel that the original post I took offense to went beyond simply expressing opinions and contained a fairly obvious attack on the character of the people who created these images. You can disagree if you want.

Helm · Sat 04/03/2006 02:33:51

Why, thank you.

Nickenstien · Sat 04/03/2006 02:34:37

WOW, I've just read all ten pages in one sitting!! I couldn't stop! (If you now how slowly I read you would understand what a feat that is!)

And now I'm in the mood for rant!!

Deep breath â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ ok, here goes: -

First off, I would like to congratulate LimpingFish on being the funniest guy I never met! I spat beer several times reading your posts

Ok, I'm just gunna completely body-swerve the whole female-oppression nonsense for a second and back-track to some earlier comments.

Quite early on in the thread BigBrother stated that the costume/boobs were inappropriate for the game: -

"Boobs/cleavage/scanty outfits aren't inappropriate unto themselves. However, in the context of the information revealed about the game, they are."

Many other people have went on to back up this argument stating over and over again things like: "Big boobs are inappropriate for a game of this nature" or "A game as serious as this will be ruined by the boobs"

How on earth can any of these arguments be justified? The information is very scant at best, all I gleamed from the info that Lemmy101 and Captain Binky have disclosed is that its on an Island, its raining, crops are failing and a girl is found in a tree.
I don't remember the part about it being all 'serious'. It mentions a problem (the failing crops and onset of famine or some such thing) and its seems clear that a solution must be found, but there is nothing to indicate that it needs to, or will be handled in a 'stern' or 'serious' manner.

I could outline a story plot with a serious crisis to be solved, and the heroes find a way to solve it all, and on reading the blurb you may think I was outlining a Tom Clancy novel, but I might actually be describing an episode of Thundercats!!!

Some of you guys seem to be jumping to massive conclusions about the game, and then bad-mouthing it based on information that YOU conjured up from your own social neuroses.

With that said, I see nothing inappropriate in having a girl with big boobs as the protagonist. I will go further and say that even if it is meant to be serious game, then what the hell is wrong big boobs anyway? I know some girls with MASSIVE boobs. Big boobs are not solely the reserve of fiction and fantasy.

The logo for Herculean-Efforts games sports an Image of Atlas holding up a bowling ball instead of the globe. Surely an image of Hercules himself rather than a completely different god would be a much more 'appropriate' image.

BigBrother, I don't say this to cause offence, it was just a mechanism to help me convey my point, which is this: - It's your logo not mine, and I have no right to criticise it even if I hold the opinion that it's inappropriate or simply a poor choice of image. And the same goes for Captain-Binkey's art work; it must be very annoying for him to read â€œinappropriate for the story blah blahâ€ over and over.

The fact is, there are only two people who actually know _what_ the story is, and one of them drew the infamous boobies. That makes Lemmy&Binky the only people in the known universe who can actually decide what images are appropriate for their story.

Of course when it's done, and people know the story they can wax lyrical about how appropriate or otherwise it actually is.

I myself plan to start a closed-minded self-righteous puritan extremist blog about the finished game, regardless of its quality just to be an asshole.

(Joke)

Additionally, quite a few people have stated that because the girl has big boobs they wouldn't be able to take the character seriously, and that this would spoil the game for them.

Two things on that subject: -

1.) Personally I never â€œtook Guybrush Threepwood seriouslyâ€, but that certainly doesn't stop the MI games from being absolutely awesome!
2.) It raises a very disturbing issue indeed!

If certain individuals can't take a woman seriously because she has large breasts, then they are harbouring some very offensively discriminating views. These people are basically saying that if a woman has large breasts then she is a bimbo, she is incapable of functioning as an intelligent individual, and is not someone that they could possibly conceive being able to perform any useful/complex function, JUST BECAUSE HER BOOBS ARE LARGE! Shame on you!!!

And in the same breath you attempt to make out that the game-designers are somehow perverted or sexist when ITS YOU that categorically state you can't take a woman seriously if her boobs are big!

Who can spell HYPOCRISY?

(On a side note, I ran this through a spell checker and apparently I myself couldn't spell hypocrisy,

)

Well, I've had my rant

Keep up the good work Lemmy101 and Captain Binky.

Cheers,
Nickenstien.

modgeulator · Sat 04/03/2006 02:35:01

So are you done with me now, am I free to go?