Emo Music

Started by Afflict, Thu 06/03/2008 12:12:47

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[Cameron]

Emerald, Deftones totally aren't emo. They are just alternative metal. Anyway, Chino was better with Team Sleep.

Hammerite

Quote from: Haddas on Thu 06/03/2008 20:00:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQOBoA8g3RI

This is the perfect example of Emo. Read the Description aswell for an emo person

Simple Plan.
Yeugh...
i used to be indeceisive but now im not so sure!

Buckethead

Quote from: Emerald on Thu 06/03/2008 16:36:18
My Chemical Romance
Bullet for my Valentine
Evanescence
Nightwish
Within Temptation
Panic! at the Disco
Linkin Park
Deftones
Green Day

et cetera

I have to disagree with you here. Not sure about the other bands but Nightwish, Evanescence and Within Temptation are gothic rock bands. I must admit I'm not sure what emo is though. But I don't like to label any band or artist anyway... only 50 cent lol  :P

Nine Toes

#23
I really dislike the way people throw around the term "emo" when it comes to music.  It's almost as bad as that whole "nu-metal" thing.

I personally don't know exactly what makes music emo, but when I think of emo, I usually think of something whiny, like My Chemical Romance, Thursday, or one of the bands ildu mentioned.

From Wikipedia: Emo - "In an even more expanded way than in the 90s, emo has come to encompass an extremely wide variety of bands, many of whom have very little in common. The term has become so broad that it has become nearly impossible to describe what exactly qualifies as "emo".

The classification of bands as "emo" is often controversial. Fans of several of the listed bands have recoiled at the use of the "emo" tag, and have gone to great lengths to explain why they don't qualify as "emo". In many cases, the term has simply been attached to them because of musical similarities, a common fashion sense, or because of the band's popularity within the "emo" scene, not because the band adheres to emo as a music genre"


Quote from: Emerald on Thu 06/03/2008 16:36:18
Evanescence
Nightwish
Deftones
Green Day

- I like Nightwish (before they changed singers).  It was a nice blend of metal/rock, and opera.  The new singer brings more of a mainstream-pop, non-opera approach to their music, as opposed to their old singer, but there's nothing emo about it.

- Green Day.  Come on, have you listened to "Dookie", or "American Idiot"?  What's so emo about that band?.

- I haven't listened to anything beyond "The White Pony", but I wouldn't call the Deftones emo.  I've always thought of them as more of an alt-metal.  That, and I feel slightly insulted that you would imply that I listen to emo music: "Around The Fur" is one of my favorite CDs, which contains the song you quoted.
Watch, I just killed this topic...

Emerald

It's really a matter of opinion. 'Emo' is basically 'that which is emotionally superficial'

Afflict

Crazy, I have to agree that I don't like the way people throw around the "emo" term. I never used it purely for the fact that I don't know what "type" of music it is.

Anyway so as per usual everybody has a different opinion as to what it is, I don't get it.

I'm still curious as to why the many different opinions, what are the reasons for you calling the bands you guys mentioned emo?


Andail

Emo to my mind is basically when non-metal guys put on eye-liner.

Nikolas

Isn't "emo" when someone is DEFINATELY (according to him/her) suffering beyond anybody else has done before? Isn't it when someone feels in a totally unique way, which nobody has ever felt before?

It does remind me of my wife with our first child that she was complaining 100% all the time, with the basic argument "you don't know what I'm going through". Somewhat this argument did not work to HER mother! ;)

Haddas

Quote from: Andail on Tue 11/03/2008 11:27:44
Emo to my mind is basically when non-metal guys put on eye-liner.

They call it "guy-liner", which in my opinion is much sadder (no pun intended) than the music they make.

miguel

emo means your brain doesn't have to make an efort when listening to it, it has no depth.
Working on a RON game!!!!!

Eigen

Quote from: miguel on Sat 15/03/2008 13:47:29
emo means your brain doesn't have to make an efort when listening to it, it has no depth.
No! You can turn off your brain completely when you listen to Britney*, Rihanna or any other pop-crap like that. In my opinion emo-music generally has very deep and EMO-tional lyrics, which you can interpret in many different ways.

(*)
Oh baby, baby
Oh baby, baby
Ah, yeah, yeah
Oh baby, baby

I mean .. wtf ..


InCreator

#31
QuoteI'll have to disagree with InCreator. For instance, Mr. Iglesias Jr. Is a pop singer, who, as pop is, does ballads too. Most ballads are pop. Now the word emo comes from emotional, but if you think that all emotional music is emo then you are wrong.

And I disagree here.
There is no such genre as "pop music". Pop is whatever majority of mainstream radios play and children listen to. And depending on era, it could mean just whatever.

For example, in Europe...

In early 90's, "pop" meant white chick singing 4 lines of lyrics, black man rapping and bass pumping with some very catchy synth stabs. Nowadays, no-one calls this pop. It's eurodance or swedish techno. Almost every genre popular then took something from reggae as base. I still don't know why. But I personally love those times.

Later 90's, "pop" meant cheesy ballads, boybands, less techno and, of course, Britney & various clones singing about sex. Subtly. Emphasis on singing with boring, but very professionally made music background. There was strong movement towards crazier, less traditional beat found in later RnB. Again, loads of quality music. People started to hate boybands because they listened to those too much, not because they were bad(Because they were not!). Until... hip-hop broke in.

And it all went downwards.

Today, "pop" means usually woman singing (or pretending to sing), but without noticeable melody or any beauty in it. Beat consists shakers and other strange instruments, and sounds like a hip-hop beat cut into pieces and taped together randomly. Sometimes, some rapping is included aswell. There's no melodic background, simply some random, strange sounds. Singing often becomes simply screaming or cursing and yelling. This retarded child of human ability to create music is called Rhytm'n'Blues.

Well, that was an example. There is alot more genres called "pop", but they all have true names besides this. In 20 years, pop means something entirely different.

And Iglesias & Co, are they really trying to deliver musical experience? Or simply gouge some additional tears out of teenage girl who has just been dumped by her boyfriend so she'd buy another album?

But of course, that's my personal take on the subject. I don't think that there's constant, solid truth to be found here.

QuoteBasically most music is based on emotions and what I'd define emo is like overacting the emotional side of something.

By this definition, exactly how can you call fake metallists emo and not this or this?

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