An eye for an eye

[Nacho]

I know that Smiley No need to tell. That's another things that one form the "civilized" world might consider as barbaric - to treat a person as property. Wink

Isn't that what capitalism is all about?

Don't your thoughts, everything you can imagine or do - belong to your employer? Everything you own is held at bank, or even belong officially to bank (modern way of life - debts & leases)?

I'm a designer, doing creative work and feel it maybe stronger than people in service or other industries. Or who are capitalists themselves...

No. Capitalism is believing that Market takes better economycal decissions that a bunch of corrupted members of the party.

[rbaleksandar]

...for example, someone goes walking down the street and kills someone else because he wanted to.

This is pure stupidity and inferiority complex. Like all those suicide-bombers. This has nothing to do with God or else. These are brainwashed people. And one get brainwashed when he's stupid. Killing is in most religions a sin (without a purpose I mean). So all this Jihad-thing is nothing but following the orders of a bunch of crazy dudes that don't play adventure games enough.
  I don't know if the woman was setisfied by wanting such sentence. Don't think she'll feel better after that.Her sight's gone.Nothing can change that.

[InCreator]

Ah, there you go again Nacho. Why are you so brainwashed?
I didn't talk about party members here, did I? And party members go with democracy, republic etc, not capitalism, which is absolutely different thing.

I was talking about collective census on forms of punishment/treating people like property and how we experience it every day.
While we all are more or less slaves of capitalist economy (some are even ignorant die-hard volunteers, like Nacho)
we all belong to something. To our country, our system, our employer, our regime and so on.

Yes, employer. While you have a deal with your employer and can leave him, employers have unwritten pact and other employer won't pay you much more than previous. That's why janitor or dishwasher cannot become a millionaire.

In capitalism, we experience this daily. Higher class earns daily what you earn monthly, your work earns him times more than he pays for it to you and so on. We mostly call it normal. Which is why I took this example.

Now imagine Islamic family. Man does work, earns & owns money. Wife takes care of kids and cooks. For this, man feeds her. How is man to his here so different from your everyday capitalist boss?
"to treat person as a property".
You are a damn property. And you have no problem with this. If you get fired, you might find another job.
But if all employers (capitalists!) decide to pay less wage to anyone of your profession, game over.

So I find "women abused there!" kind of hypocrite thing to say. I don't find acid throwing normal, but I don't see how it's so different with rest of us.
And with all that softness and fake tolerance around, I wonder why haven't anyone started throwing acid yet? There would be very little of response to this, due ages of voluntary slavery and being content with whatever rolls over you/whatever sick psychos run out there? Ooh, you threw acid into my face, let's lock you up in warm cell. But first, let's make sure some slick tries to defend you as well as possible, since we're so just & fair blah blah

And by default, we are human beings, which is also a responsibility.

Now, there's all kinds of scum that makes embarrassing to be a human. You (whoever) or me, law-abiding, moral and adjusted (to human ethics) humans are... somehow same species as that guy who took little girl away in his van and hacked her into pieces and buried them... are you okay with this? Seriously?

You really think that this only deserves a pat on the back?

[Nacho]

Rb, why do you comment that specific line? I was just giving an example of something "bad and horrible..." full stop. Nothing to discuss there... Your post means nothing to me, because you are not discussing what I said, sorry.

InC: Economy means "The way to decide how to assign limited resources". Capitalism does that by allowing the market to decide, in spite of allowing a central organization to do so. Liberal economy against directed economy.... (Directed by a party, if I am right...)

All the rest is "blablablablablabla..."

[rbaleksandar]

Ok

[mkennedy]

It would be better if they could transplant the attackers eyes into his victim so that her sight is restored by sacrificing his, but that might not be possible due to rejection. While I consider myself a democrat I do support the death penalty for the most heinous of crimes and don't have a problem with "eye for eye". If McCain would have made pedophilia a capital crime though he would have gotten my vote if Obama was not willing to do the same.

[Nacho]

One sec, molesting a minor is going to be punished with death in the US?

[Andail]

Let's sort out all the hypothetical ifs here.

Nacho, what mkennedy said was that if McCain had advocated death penalty for paedophilia, mkennedy would have voted for him, granted that Obama hadn't done the same.

However, McCain didn't support death penalty for paedophilia, and furthermore he didn't win the election, as Obama did, and Obama certainly isn't supporting death penalty for paedophilia.

So to answer your question, no, USA is not going to implement death penalty for paedophilia

[arrr]

I think is all about beliving in God. If you belive in Him you will obey His laws. And he clearly stated that killing anybody is not permited.

[MrColossal]

APRIL FOOLS

[Andail]

That's our Eric, he fooled us all!