Mesa LE (Police Quest)

Spire · Sun 26/04/2009 03:14:43

Quote from: Gravity on Sun 19/04/2009 04:17:26
I have never been interested in fan games or remakes, considering them a waste of both development time and creativeness. I can understand that some of the older titles could be improved with a face lift and added features but overall all it is still the same game.

I've never been able to play the original PQ2, or any AGI game in fact, because I find the combination of graphics and parser interface too cumbersome. I've been spoiled by SCI games...

So I definitely appreciate the effort RedPress is going to. The backgrounds (especially the "realistic" ones) look awesome!

xenogia · Sun 26/04/2009 06:04:55

Interesting you say that spire because Police Quest 2 is a SCI0 game not an AGI game.

SuperDre · Sun 26/04/2009 19:16:24

The owners of the Sierra games have said to the other fellows who did the remake of KQ and HQ that they could finish the current ones they where working on, but couldn't start a new one, so just be warned about this fact before you do a lot of work on something you can't publish..
Maybe just use the stuff you have to create your own Police Quest (but ofcourse you can't call it Police Quest)..

Moresco · Sun 26/04/2009 20:59:45

Quote from: SuperDre on Sun 26/04/2009 19:16:24
The owners of the Sierra games have said to the other fellows who did the remake of KQ and HQ that they could finish the current ones they where working on, but couldn't start a new one, so just be warned about this fact before you do a lot of work on something you can't publish..
Maybe just use the stuff you have to create your own Police Quest (but ofcourse you can't call it Police Quest)..

I'm well aware of Vivendi's stance on remakes, and unless you have some really new piece of information, a link to an official statement of some kind that has changed things, then I'll just say cheers.

SuperDre · Sun 26/04/2009 23:16:33

Quote from: theRedPress on Sun 26/04/2009 20:59:45
I'm well aware of Vivendi's stance on remakes, and unless you have some really new piece of information, a link to an official statement of some kind that has changed things, then I'll just say cheers.

I don't have any official statement, but I read something about it on the agdi site a while ago (or at least in regard to them)..
But why not create your own game instead of remaking an old one with the fear of all the work being done for nothing..

Moresco · Sun 26/04/2009 23:20:01

Because it won't be done for nothing. I stated outright in the beginning that I wanted to redesign the game for myself, if that's all that happens then I still ultimately win. If other people play it, good for them and I hope it's an enjoyable experience.

And again it's already been said, that I am designing my own game in addition to this. All good ideas, definitely doing that.

Dualnames · Mon 27/04/2009 11:12:20

Quote from: theRedPress on Sun 26/04/2009 23:20:01
Because it won't be done for nothing. I stated outright in the beginning that I wanted to redesign the game for myself, if that's all that happens then I still ultimately win. If other people play it, good for them and I hope it's an enjoyable experience.

And again it's already been said, that I am designing my own game in addition to this. All good ideas, definitely doing that.

Seconded. As for myself trying to remake a quite older game, and with whoever holds the rights for mine, being at the back of my mind, it's not the goal but the journey. And from my side, it's fun so far.

Peter Bear · Mon 27/04/2009 12:10:07

Quote from: SuperDre on Sun 26/04/2009 23:16:33
Quote from: theRedPress on Sun 26/04/2009 20:59:45
I'm well aware of Vivendi's stance on remakes, and unless you have some really new piece of information, a link to an official statement of some kind that has changed things, then I'll just say cheers.

I don't have any official statement, but I read something about it on the agdi site a while ago (or at least in regard to them)..
But why not create your own game instead of remaking an old one with the fear of all the work being done for nothing..

Seek the forum for "Garfield" the fangame ... Has been removed from everywhere due to copyright problems. And nothing was ripped from else where in that particular game ...

Anyway, good luck with your work, if we can see it one day.

Hudders · Mon 27/04/2009 14:23:21

Quote from: SuperDre on Sun 26/04/2009 19:16:24
create your own Police Quest (but ofcourse you can't call it Police Quest)..

Rozzer Quest

Spire · Mon 27/04/2009 16:58:17

Quote from: Xenogia on Sun 26/04/2009 06:04:55
Interesting you say that spire because Police Quest 2 is a SCI0 game not an AGI game.

Whoops, my bad. Amend my thought to say "any AGI or SCI game that uses a text parser".

Moresco · Tue 28/04/2009 04:07:23

If you're interested in some of the ongoing technical aspects of the paintings, you can check out this thread here, I'll be posting a lot of stuff in the days to come:

http://www.mmgames.org/KQ4/SMF/index.php?topic=42.30

My final edit isn't up there yet either, but I will post it in the next couple days. There are a few elements I want to add and work through before I do.

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The PQ2 page on the website is no more, but that has nothing to do with my desire to finish the game...I'm in the middle of a major redesign that focuses solely on theRedPress concept and nothing else. Where the AGS games will end up is still undecided at this time, I may get another url and build a completely separate website...we'll see.

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Update:

I've actually decided to post all the new art on facebook with my other art:
Art of the Alien

If you're following this, you should follow me there to get timely updates on progress. The photo-realistic version of this game has been entirely discarded, due to the amount of work required for animations. I'm redoing the game with a fresh interface and digitally painted graphics. I'm still using 640x400, though the backgrounds and playable area will be slightly smaller than that.

Sslaxx · Wed 07/04/2010 18:36:42

You'd have done better posting that as a new post to the thread, theRedPress, I don't think many people are going to notice it'd been edited if it's on page 9 of the forums.

Moresco · Wed 07/04/2010 23:24:16

That's true, but I wasn't sure if double posting/bumping was allowed...couldn't remember.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Thu 08/04/2010 00:53:42

Double posts in short spans (<1 week) are discouraged but you are encouraged to edit your first post any time you have new information to share

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snoopy · Tue 22/06/2010 04:11:21

I'm surprised this topic is not locked by now.

Does anybody know if the red press is still working on
there remake version of PQ 2. In fact there website hasn't been updated since January 14 ?

John

Moresco · Tue 22/06/2010 04:16:50

It probably hasn't been locked because I am still working on it. The website you are referring to is for my musical projects.

There was a facebook page (Art of the Alien...the link is still in the sig but obviously won't work) with all the latest posted, but I deleted it and will post new progress here when my work schedule lets up.

snoopy · Tue 22/06/2010 05:00:32

Ok good i am glad your still able to work on this. I was kind of worried when suddenly that other board was different. Especially after Activision gave a letter to cease and desist to the silver lining game that was being made.

Maybe it would be a good thing to call it Cop's Quest and change the characters names around just in case?

John

Moresco · Tue 22/06/2010 05:10:55

That was in regards to them licensing an original game, it wasn't a remake and they had a previous contract with Vivendi, so it wasn't like they were under the radar or anything.

SuperDre · Sun 04/07/2010 15:42:22

Quote from: theRedPress on Tue 22/06/2010 05:10:55
That was in regards to them licensing an original game, it wasn't a remake and they had a previous contract with Vivendi, so it wasn't like they were under the radar or anything.

The fact you say 'under radar' gives me the impression you are still going to release this PQ2 remake, which can get you in serious trouble.. Also 'an original game' is less likely to be a problem (as it's much MUCH easier to just rename the characters and redesign a few locations which look too much like the original games), but a remake is a complete other business, especially since Lucasarts is having (financial) succes with their new MI remakes. It's could be that Activision is doing their own HD remakes of any sierra game (which would be great IMHO)..
Just don't go publishing something for which you know you down have the rights or permission. So get permission first, instead of just sticking your head in the sand and hope for the best.. The team of 'Silver lining' now have reach an agreement with Activision and have a new license, that's the way to go..

Moresco · Sun 04/07/2010 21:53:24

Quote from: SuperDre on Sun 04/07/2010 15:42:22
Quote from: theRedPress on Tue 22/06/2010 05:10:55
That was in regards to them licensing an original game, it wasn't a remake and they had a previous contract with Vivendi, so it wasn't like they were under the radar or anything.

The fact you say 'under radar' gives me the impression you are still going to release this PQ2 remake, which can get you in serious trouble..

I've stated my position on this several times. Thanks for your input.