Is it ok to have rape scenes in games?

[Khris]

the way Khris said it, made me feel uncomfy

Imagine you discover there's an open house party in your neighborhood. Right next to the door is a huge sign with house rules but you don't even glance at it. Who needs rules, right? Instead you enter the party to find yourself among people who are several years older than you, all having nice conversations about a variety of different topics.
You look for people your own age but can't find them. So you decide to arbitrarily start conversations with random people using all kinds of slang words and stuff, breaking a few house rules in the process.
Most people are friendly but some are looking at you funnily.

Now, none of this has made you feel uncomfortable in the least, but as you soon as you hear someone saying "look over there, another young guy who didn't see the sign, just like the one last week", you suddenly feel really bad and decide to tell all the people around you that you're going to flip out if somebody pissed you off.

Can you see what's wrong with this picture?

Concerning nudity and rape:
Ask all those people what they find worse, being naked or being raped.

And yeah, if somebody thinks that depicting nudity is worse than depicting rape, there's probably something wrong with them.

[kconan]

  Dude just make a small goofy adventure game or a platform arcade type in AGS.  Basically go rape-free for your first game.

[Milos Regamer Jevtic]

I know that Serbian people are infact wrong, i want to thank you for opening my eyes, it just hit me, all the rape victims, how i looked at the tv in shock and horror, i will never forget that, i will go my own way, i will not include any offensive material in any of my games. However tempting or plot important it be. I thank you. But i will still be pissed off if someone makes fun of me. Everyone else deserves a cookie.

[WHAM]

I can't believe this discussion just took place... For multiple reasons...

[Ponch]

Basically go rape-free for your first game.

Easier said than done, my friend. 

[Eigen]

When drawing, make the rapist a white guy - less pixels needed.

Once you realize what I did there you will most likely not chuckle.

[Khris]

Dualnames:
I don't know why I bother to talk you but here goes: I don't care if I seem like an arrogant prick on occasion.
My only motivation here is to get the newcomer to understand how I see what he does so he takes a few moments to think about it himself.  I'm not doing this to get praised for my insight or ingenious metaphors; when all is said and done, I want to help him. That's the bottom line. Sometimes, the only useful thing to do is kick somebody in the proverbial balls. It used to help me.

And regarding your really bad analogy: why do I even have to point out the rules? That's exactly what I shouldn't have to do in the first place. It's not like this is the only place with rules or that they are really well hidden. If I decide to travel to Greece and start stealing stuff and beating people up, will you calmly point out to me that that's frowned upon?

[Milos Regamer Jevtic]

I will for now on follow the rules, i've read them before, but didn't really pay attention, just to point out, i answered all the questions right in one go, actually number 6 was wrong, just once. Now i'm totally sounding like a dick, right?

[Dualnames]

The best way to actually help someone, is to ACTUALLY HELP them. Help doesn't include insulting and treating a person like a total garbage. Unless of course you're House. Then it's total understandable, cause that's a TV series.

Amazing analogy with Greece. Clap, clap, clap. If I ever came to Germany and asked people directions would anyone go RTFM? And if they do, do I have the right to step over them for being so fantastic people?

[DrewCCU]

Basically go rape-free for your first game.

Well, what about a bit of bondage or rough sex? It's not exactly rape ... but it's a start.

[Snake]

If the player saves her the character will get mortally wounded, and will die in the end. If he however doesn't save her, he escapes (makes the game a bit shorter) but a scene shows the girl about 13  years in the future, locked in a cell, while the psycho guy with his son, who is also psycho, slaughters people at random.

Well, I guess there's no need to play your game since you've told us about both endings...
WHY U RUIN END OF GAME?!

If I ever came to Germany and asked people directions would anyone go RTFM?

If someone in Germany said to me, "AreTeeEfEm!", I probably wouldn't realize that they were actually saying, "RTFM" and mistake it for "Fuck you stupid American!" in German or something. And yes, this was pointless of me to state.

[Milos Regamer Jevtic]

Snake, since the rape part is removed from my plans, the endings will be different.

[Ponch]

If I ever came to Germany and asked people directions would anyone go RTFM?

If someone in Germany said to me, "AreTeeEfEm!", I probably wouldn't realize that they were actually saying, "RTFM" and mistake it for "Fuck you stupid American!" in German or something. And yes, this was pointless of me to state.

Wo ist die bibliotek? 

[Ghost]

Ponch, das wird nichts. Du kriegst ja nichtmal Umlaute hin

[Chicky]

Ahahahahaha! Sorry i'm from Serbia, and i know a lot of people who thing being naked is worser than rape,personally i would go ahead in the nude.

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute there. Serbia? As in... 'A Serbian Film', that kind of Serbia?


This whole conversation has suddenly become a lot clearer to me.

[Ponch]

I'm sorry, sir. But I don't speak Spanish.  

Also, I don't know how to make those little umlauts. So go ahead and take these ..   ..   ..   ..  , print them, cut them out, and paste them onto your monitor where needed to make what little high school German I still remember into something readable.  8)

[cat]

Ponch, das wird nichts. Du kriegst ja nichtmal Umlaute hin

I wonder where you would put Umlaute in the word library... ah, now I know: Bücherei!

[Ghost]

Bibliothööööök.

Argh. Back to topic.

[Chicky]

Back to topic?

Let's talk about sunshine instead.

[Ponch]

Wait a minute. There are TWO words for library in German? When did this happen? I don't recall anyone mentioning it on the nightly news.

If you ask me, having more than one word for a thing seems inefficient. And I thought you Germans were known for your efficiency.

I can no longer trust what I see on the news is what I'm saying. So thanks, Cat. Now I can never trust anyone again.  



EDIT: Chicky, we resolved the rape issue. (i.e. It's bad, but impossible to avoid if you use the AGS engine -- or something like that). Now we're talking about odd dots over vowels. Please try to keep up!