Farewell, Neil Armstrong

Started by DBoyWheeler, Sat 25/08/2012 21:03:01

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DBoyWheeler

Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon, passed away recently--he was 82.
:~(
Farewell, Neil Armstrong... now you're beyond the universe!

FrankT

Oh God! Oh God, oh God, oh God! :~( Why must You treat us this way?????

Ponch

Man, when I was a kid, I wanted to BE Neil Armstrong.  :~(

Grim

I'm sorry he's passed away...

Probably not the best time to say I don't believe he had actually ever landed on the moon then?....

Armageddon

Quote from: Grim on Sun 26/08/2012 05:07:57
I'm sorry he's passed away...

Probably not the best time to say I don't believe he had actually ever landed on the moon then?....
Don't believe in The Shining myth, he landed on the moon.

Matagot

The greatest explorer in history!
He made us all want to reach for the moon.

Rest in Peace Neil. :~(

Atelier

Quote from: Grim on Sun 26/08/2012 05:07:57
Probably not the best time to say I don't believe he had actually ever landed on the moon then?....

I hope you are trolling.

FrankT

Quote from: Grim on Sun 26/08/2012 05:07:57
Probably not the best time to say I don't believe he had actually ever landed on the moon then?....

No, and you can keep that mistrust to yourself! >:(

Khris

Always sad to see a great man go. Farewell.

Quote from: Grim on Sun 26/08/2012 05:07:57Probably not the best time to say I don't believe he had actually ever landed on the moon then?....
Please. Keep your crackpot ignorance to yourself.

Grim

Don't really get it why it's being labeled "trolling" and "crackpot ignorance" to express my beliefs. Would Agent Mulder be also slated for what he wanted to believe in?....

What's so wrong with having an open mind about this and assuming there might be other possibilities? Everyone's death is a sad event and he will be missed of course... But guys, I didn't barge into his funeral screaming he's a fraud and handing evidence to the grieving family and friends. I just said: yeah, well, I'm not buying it personally, but there you go- I don't believe in Osama Bin Laden either...


Calin Leafshade

Right ok, I'm invested. I love conspiricy theories.

Why, pray tell, do you not believe man has landed on the moon? I do however forewarn you that *every reason* you might have has been tested and shown to be stupid but give it a go anyway.

Grim

I can't say I have any shocking evidence or extensive knowledge on this subject... I don't know. Just always thought that back then there just wasn't technology that would unable them to land AND go back to Earth...

Yeah, I'm gonna get slated now... I guess I should've done some research first. Go ahead and tell me I'm an idiot;) But don't call me a troll!!! :)

Calin Leafshade

Specifically, what technology do you think they lacked that they would need?

Landing on the moon is basically just aiming a rocket at it and slowing down before they hit it. The moon has no atmosphere to complicate things. The hard part is the mathematics involved in predicting orbits and stuff which you can do with a pocket calculator.

Grim

Why haven't there been more moon landings then if it's so simple? Shouldn't Richard Branson build himself a summer house there with a nice view on Earth?... I'm sure there are people who could afford it...

Khris

First of all, people wanting to believe something is the main reason why there is such an abundance of stupid conspiracy theories. The only thing that matters is whether a belief is true or not. (The definition is kind of the key here, a belief that is essentially an opinion is of course neither true nor false and rarely stupid, except when it's grossly misinformed. But a belief such as "man did not land on the moon" is really a claim, and as such its validity is subject to facts.)

Secondly, having an open mind is fine, but buying into every crackpot claim out there is clearly not. To my mind, having read a lot about this subject, believing that the moon landings have been faked is pretty much on par with believing that the earth is flat.

The claim that the moon landings have been faked is one of the most thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories ever. Now add the fact that the people peddling this nonsense to sell their books are still sticking to the same old stupid arguments ("the shadows aren't parallel") even though it only takes high school physics to debunk most of it, and there you go.

And regarding the technology of that time: The programming language C was created three years later.

Quote from: Grim on Sun 26/08/2012 21:45:07Why haven't there been more moon landings then if it's so simple?
There has been a total of six manned moon landings (the last in 1972).
If you really don't know this, please stop talking right now and do some research first.

Also:

FrankT

Hey - and listen to this - we could have built a moonbase if the Apollo program hadn't ended! Technology moves fast, eh? Perhaps when we do get round to it, we'll name it to Neil's memory.

Grim

It's not something I was buying into, because clearly, if I was, I'd know better how to fight my corner here and provide some strong arguments. I'm certainly not some kind of obsessed psycho spending nights trying to convince myself and others that the government is responsible for this and other conspiracies... In my defence I will just add that I didn't say "man did not land on the moon" but simply that I didn't believe that, so it wasn't really a claim?;)

But you are certainly right- I should know what I'm talking about before I say anything.

And fine. Faced with a quick research this situtation has encouraged me to make, and the facts mentioned by you, I will have to agree that it probably did happen. I'm open minded enough to admit I was wrong.

Atelier

Landing on the Moon is complicated, but not so much that everything would explode if the minutest detail was wrong. All you need to do is ensure complex organisms like humans can survive when they're in a lander and suit by adapting technology they already had. Getting into orbit from Earth is the hardest part of the journey, easier than just essentially giving the lander a push to escape the Moon's gravitational field. I knew you weren't a troll and to be fair I partially subscribe to some Illuminati/MK Ultra theories, but like you, only because I haven't found explanations, not because I want to be trendy ;)

Anian

Sadly, it's not just you Grimm.

It's madness I tells ya, soon people will believe there were "concentration camps" in WW2 where they killed and tortured people.
I mean, yes, there are people who say they were there and there's authenticated photos, dust and rocks from the Moon, repeated missions, people who saw the actual rocket/shuttles launch and land, there really is not any motive to say there was more than 1 mission (because the first one ended the space race basically, so why say were there more than once), but still...
I don't want the world, I just want your half

Calin Leafshade

Quote from: Atelier on Sun 26/08/2012 22:27:33
not because I want to be trendy ;)

You make adventure games. You will never be trendy.

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