Soo... what's the female count here?

[Meowster]

...(I'm female )

I just wondered how many females used these forums, so we could flock together and gossip and bitch... (yeah, I'm joking)... because I noticed that there seem to be more guys and most games are released... by guys. In fact, the only game I've played by a female at all included a "totally spies" style main character complete with an initial inventory of pink nail polish, a mobile, pink purse and some glue to fix her broken heels.

I'm still getting aquainted with people, so it'd be nice to know

Also, let's counter this pink stupidity and make a lesbian seagull game. Who's in for a lesbian seagull game? I have invented the main character, her name is Dolphin and she's strong. Her mother was an amazonian warrior. Seagull. And amazonian warrior-seagull. Her lesbian lover was killed in a tragic accident involving a cat and some teeth. Dolphin sets out to avenge her lovers death, armed only with her sexuality and also some wings, and this thing the RSPCA clipped around her neck. Speaking of which, she's also being hunted by the RSPCA, who want to investigate her sexuality mercilessly. With other bigger, LESBIANERER seagulls, and also a Gay Hawk.

Who's with me?

[Squinky]

I'm all for lesbians...as long as they're hot...

[luckyguy]

A single male trapped on a planet where the only gender is female and the only form of communication is sex

[TerranRich]

That's basically almost like m0ds's game, Kinky Island.

But seriously, as far as I know, there are a handful of ladies at the least, including FemmeFatal, Melia/Bruised, Dragonrose, Pesty. Even on the AGS forums, just like in life, I'm not acquainted with many females.

[Squinky]

* Squinky can't stop thinking about lesbians....

* Squinky thinks about them dressed up as nurses....

Baaahh1!!!!

[Pesty]

That's basically almost like m0ds's game, Kinky Island.

But seriously, as far as I know, there are a handful of ladies at the least, including FemmeFatal, Melia/Bruised, Dragonrose, Pesty. Even on the AGS forums, just like in life, I'm not acquainted with many females.

There's also Amaranth, Snugglecakes (The female Squinky) and Swordmaster, but they don't post as often as the ones you named. Also, you forgot the most important gal here (besides me), Annie/OTG.

And wasn't Mom's Quest made by a female?

[Gilbert]

Yes, Mom's Quest was made by Blub, but I don't see her hanging around here recently. And we have VolMel, she even kindly donated some money to keep the old Ezboard going, I think you can spot her in these forums occasionally, just not that frequently.

And of course, we have M0Ds

[OneThinkingGal and ._.]

Also, you forgot the most important gal here (besides me), Annie/OTG.

Yeah, forgetting to put the alpha female on the list is really not good.  

[danny*]

there's Erica,too...

[edmundito]

Hooray for teh females!

[Gemmalah]

ok thats cool, i'm female too,

lesbiens are cool, they ain't allowed bigger tits than me on pricible, cos i said so, and no i'm not going to discuss that further.

tell me why does a game starring a girl have to have pink nail polish and high heels in it. thats just stupid, making us sound like barbie obssessed wannabies. I'd have a girl indiana jones,
indiana jane?

[SSH]

Squinky: surely it's pointless thinking about lesbians because by definition they wouldn't be interested in you. What you mean is bisexuals...

Anyway, everyone knows that all the females on this forum are actually dirty old men pretending to be teenage girls in order to seduce impressionable teenage boys at Mittens...  

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

Well,
you forgot Coffee Lady, she doesn't show up often.  I like the idea about the seagul, though it does sound very weird (hmmm, could the idea be drug induced? :S ) I've seen some games made by females and they are very, very good. Some AGS plug-ins are made by females (well, only Erica makes plug-ins).
The reason that there aren't many females making games or doing anything that has to do with computers is because they are turned off by the image of a spotty teenager with braces spending all his life in his room coding and they don't want to be like that! Some of the people I know are like that  , but they don't code, they just play games all the time. One of them brings his laptop to school and plays games during lunch and tea breaks. He has a bad case of acne and dandruff, picture this - you never worked seriously with computers and then you see a guy doing something on his laptop all the time (it doesn't matter what he does) and he has acne all over his face and arms and he's ugly. How would you feel about computers after that? Females  tend to care about their physical well-being more than males so they are more easily turned off computers. Some are lucky and have people who work with computers in their family and see that it's not really like that but most are not familiar with anyone who works with computers and never touch them for the fear that they will turn into a pimply beast that sits in a dark room all day wasting the best years of their life.

[SSH]

... Some are lucky and have people who work with computers in their family and see that it's not really like that ...

as someone who works with computers, I have to say that most of my colleagues are like that. I, on the other hand, am a handsome stud-muffin.

[luckyguy]

Interesting post, Sasha (privet! kak dela? 8)). However, I'd imagine there are some people that go into working with computers because they're "ugly" in the first place, so that they don't have to do a lot of social work. Although working with computers doesn't mean no social work, it all depends on how you choose to go about it. But then there are plenty of other jobs that aren't computer related that "ugly" people take. I've seen plenty of such "ugly" people in accounting, for example.

And then you have your opposite type that are into sports but are dumb as a stump. Sure, a lot of them are healthy but a lot of them also sleep around and make a bunch of babies that they can't or don't want to support.

Suffice it to say that both parties tend to bash each other. While the real deal is BALANCE! If you balance everything out then you can have time for computers, sports, and social life 8)

[m0ds]

"This is great! Now go to your room and finish it." - The Ewok Queen

Not sure who that was/is now, but I remember her being female.

Oh, was it Volmel that donated like 100 pounds to the community chest when we were on EZboard?

Oh, and if you're looking for lesbians, I suggest you bypass the UK. 99% of them look like men.

No offence to any UK lesbians browsing here, but you know I'm right.

And to clear up the rumours, yes - I'm female too.

m0ds

* m0ds drinks a pint of Stella

[OneThinkingGal and ._.]

tell me why does a game starring a girl have to have pink nail polish and high heels in it. thats just stupid, making us sound like barbie obssessed wannabies. I'd have a girl indiana jones,
indiana jane?

In fact, the only game I've played by a female at all included a "totally spies" style main character complete with an initial inventory of pink nail polish, a mobile, pink purse and some glue to fix her broken heels.

Why? What exactly is wrong with pink nail polish? Or pink for that matter? Why do you feel the need to dislike colours that are associated with women? For more pink <> dumb proof, tune in to the powerpuff girls.

Who cares what colour the character wears or carries? If its a well done character, it will go beyond that.

This is obviously a rant, and a disorganized one at that, but I'm kinda tired of women apologizing for being women or doing things that women traditionally do. Equal is not identical, and it need not be.

[luckyguy]

Man, I'm never going to UK then! Well, except maybe to visit the Kinky Island and CJ's house (or is it one and the same?)

[m0ds]

tell me why does a game starring a girl have to have pink nail polish and high heels in it. thats just stupid, making us sound like barbie obssessed wannabies. I'd have a girl indiana jones,
indiana jane?

To be honest, I'd much rather go out with an Indiana Jane kind of girl but in this day and age, you don't find them. They exist in movies but after the age of 14, girls seem to lose interest in climbing trees and generally being adventurous. Going "sailing" or "rock climbing" isn't my idea of an Indiana Jane, thats just someone that likes sport. The same with ladies/girls that like "XTREME SPORTS!!!!11" like skateboarding, snowboarding etc - they're into sport. They're not adventurous.

luckyguy - CJ's house is as kinky as it gets. Or so AGA told me! He came back bruised.

[luckyguy]

 :o Oh, goody goody! Let's all have an AGS S&M/bondage meeting and spank the crap out of each other! jk

Hmm, AGA must've thought that AGS was for some sorta adventure game making but in reality it stands for "Applied Gruesome Spanking"

[Raggit]

Hey girls, my game will feature gender role options so the player can choose male or female!!!!

Hopefully!

*Kicks back and waits for the hot chicks of the board to flock around him. If they aren't lesbians.*

[bspeers]

Why is it that every time women start a thread about women, guys have to charge into the "I like sex with big-breasted bisexuals" and "ugly chicks use computers" stuff? (   ) Frankly, having a number of friends that are bisexual female computer users, I can say that they are neither ugly nor oversexed exhibishionist cheerleaders (though "But I'm A Cheerleader" *is* popular movie-- and a few of them are "Radical Cheerleaders" -- which is to say the coolest group in the world).  I mean, until you had met every woman in existence, how would you know what any particular strata looked like?

Anyway, sorry about this, it was meant to sound more tongue-in-cheek than it probably did.  Carry on (Cabbie?)

[m0ds]

How come everytime a newbie joins, they always post a "I need people for my team" thread?

It's a mystery, bspeers.

Boys will be boys, girls will be girls.

[|Alky|]

ok thats cool, i'm female too,

lesbiens are cool, they ain't allowed bigger tits than me on pricible, cos i said so, and no i'm not going to discuss that further.

tell me why does a game starring a girl have to have pink nail polish and high heels in it. thats just stupid, making us sound like barbie obssessed wannabies. I'd have a girl indiana jones,
indiana jane?

Try Sophia Hapgood, Indy's Co-star in Fate of Atlantis...
Come to think of it, when you see her in the next game, 'The Infernal Machine', she says she's been working for the CIA... maybe a spinoff with her in it would be cool...

[Vel]

M0ds, I think I that was a song by the.....mmmm....lemme think.....the kinks?

[DGMacphee]

I like sex with big-breasted bisexu-- Oh wait, never mind!

[m0ds]

Don't we all

Whoops!

* m0ds avoids bspeers wrath

m0ds

[Shattered Sponge]

Lesbian seagull!  I love that song!

*sings the song*

I'm not a girl, I'm afraid, I jsut wanted to say that I love that darn song.

*sings the song once more*

[Meowster]

To be honest, I'd much rather go out with an Indiana Jane kind of girl but in this day and age, you don't find them. They exist in movies but after the age of 14, girls seem to lose interest in climbing trees and generally being adventurous. Going "sailing" or "rock climbing" isn't my idea of an Indiana Jane, thats just someone that likes sport. The same with ladies/girls that like "XTREME SPORTS!!!!11" like skateboarding, snowboarding etc - they're into sport. They're not adventurous.

I'm seventeen, I grew up with the following activities as part of a daily ritual...

1. Playing Video Games
2. Climbing Trees and making tree houses
3. formatting my 386 every day to try and make it break
4. Nurturing my 486 so it could run games meant for a Pentium
5. Playing football, riding horses and basketball
5.1. Playing Guitar (and Keyboard)
6. Drawing
7. reading and writing
8. collecting PETS!

Except for the last ones, maybe I have more male traits than female (I am sooo not a lesbian BTW, I am currently being stalked by my X BF anyway). I have never lost the desire to do any of the above. 'Cept for the 386 bit because that would just be sad. I do that with my Pentium III now. Also the 486.

And I'm not ugly!



Okay I sort of... you know, messed around with the eyes on that because I thought it looked funny, but if you imagine my eyes as being normal...

Power to the Girl Geeks >:)

[DragonRose]

Power to the Girl Geeks >

Amen.

I find it interesting, though, that when Petaglair asked how many girls are on the board, he was accused of trying to pick up chicks.  But when Yufster asks, it's hunky dorry.

By the way, Yufster, American or European football?

[Meowster]

My football. No rules, just chaos.

In a life and death situation, European. Mostly because I don't know what american football IS.

[rodekill]

Calvinball it is.

[Meowster]

So there are definately more lads than girls.

Does anybody else think that Orange Pithe is like Orange Placenta?

[BOYD1981]

So there are definately more lads than girls.

Does anybody else think that Orange Pithe is like Orange Placenta?

i never knew oranges gave birth

[Meowster]

You know when you get oranges with wierd red stuff inside them? That's when the orange has its period.

Actually, did you know you sometimes find Chicken Eggs with blood inside them? That's the chicken's period. Yeaaap.

[DGMacphee]

Hmmm -- Tampex for Chickens.

I'm onto a million-dollar idea here.

[Meowster]

Finally, a way of recycling corks!

[Bob The Hun]

Oh, and if you're looking for lesbians, I suggest you bypass the UK. 99% of them look like men.

Bypass Oregon too. Where I live there are (this is true) lesbian lumberjack camps.
They occasionally venture into town, and they look more manly then the men do.

[Helm]

I live in the arctic circle.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

(Privet tebe is Australii, luckguy!)
Eggs with blood are eggs that have been fertilised and were growing to be chickens since most eggs nowadays can't turn into chickens because they are not fertilised. The red stuff in oranges? Beats me...  Maybe it's a cross breed of oranges and tomatoes by the goverment in an attemp to create a superiour race to rule the world! :o!!!!
As for being adventurous I have grown out of it mostly but I am in Army Cadets and I still can  climb trees though I am geting a bit too tall to do that. My mom and dad forbid me to mow the lawn because they said  it was "men's work" and I hijacked the mover and ran over the neighbours cat on the process of frenzied grass killing (not really ).
Everybody uses computers no matter what sex thay are but they just use it for different purposes. I have a bi-sexual female friend who is addicted to cyber sex (she's 14!!!!  :o :o :o   ) . Another person I know uses his computer to scan and colour in the manga he draws and another one plays games all the time, another one watches movies and another one uses his for porn.  Many use theirs exlusively for chatting, it's just that the majority who create stuff with computers are male for some evil reason.

[Mr Jake]

all this talk about uglyness has got me down

*starts doing sit-ups, gets to 2 and gives in*

[SLaMgRInDeR]

indiana jane?

im prettey sure it already exists, its a platformer. oh no thats jane of the jungle.

btw, how did this change from a disscussion about lesbian seagulls, to a disscussion about fruit taking over the world.
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[Meowster]

I blatantly lied about chickens and oranges having periods, and some people believed me. Femme Fatale is too smart. That's because she's a girl, and they're smart.  

[juncmodule]

Since this topic has gone completely off...

I have never understood the big hairy lesbian thing. I mean, if you like girls, then you like GIRLS. Right?

Well, much to my joy this stereotype has been somewhat destroyed by girls born after 1981. (oh, by the way, I'm not pulling this out of my butt, I took a sociology class about genereations, although it is biased toward Americans). Anyway, girls born after 1981 tend to like pink things again. These are of course all stereotypes but, stereotypes are based on pop culture.

Girls from the pre-81 era grew up in a world where women were meant to be nothing. They were supposed to cook, clean, and make babies. They were supposed to have big tits, smooth legs, and talk nice. "Big hairy"-lesbians is just the byproduct of men being pricks. Now that a generation of women has grown up with big hairy lesbians they feel the need to modify. You can still be a beautiful woman and be a lesbian. I live in Columbus, Ohio which has the second largest homosexual population in the US. I would say about 50% of the lesbians that I see are "HOT" by stereotypical male standards. The ones that fall into the big hairy lesbian category are usually older.

I think the big hairy lesbian thing is kind of sad. Women letting go of their one ultimate power. Sexuality is a beautiful thing and I think every woman should use it. Women that don't...just annoy me.

I forget who originally said it now...but the girls climbing tree, being adventerous thing....MY GOD YES!! I SOOOO wish I could find a girl like that. Ladies, you have no idea how sexy that is. Oh, and on a related note: Any female that sits in front of a computer and programs or (most importantly) uses AGS, automatically gains "sexy"-points.

And now back to AGS...

I think an Indiana Jane game would be awesome (so long as it was a rough and tough Jane, and not a tomb raider look at my boobs-Jane. I also would like the Amazonian Seagull game if it was done right.

later,
-junc

[m0ds]

Pesty, you're gonna have to wait. I like Yufster.


m0ds

[Jimi]

1. Playing Video Games
2. Climbing Trees and making tree houses
3. formatting my 386 every day to try and make it break
4. Nurturing my 486 so it could run games meant for a Pentium5. Playing football, riding horses and basketball
5.1. Playing Guitar (and Keyboard)
6. Drawing
7. reading and writing
8. collecting PETS!

And I'm not ugly!

WOW!

And I'm not ugly!

damned right you'e not!

[Meowster]

Excelllllllent  

I forget who originally said it now...but the girls climbing tree, being adventerous thing....MY GOD YES!! I SOOOO wish I could find a girl like that. Ladies, you have no idea how sexy that is. Oh, and on a related note: Any female that sits in front of a computer and programs or (most importantly) uses AGS, automatically gains "sexy"-points.

Well here's the crap on that. I had a boyfriend that was a BORING BASTARD. I mean, I actually tried to MAKE him climb a tree, and he was all like, "Sniff, Sniff, don't be stupid." the only 'adventurous' thing he ever did was start fights. So yeah.

My first boyfriend was incredibly dull. He wouldn't do anything if it involved being more than a foot from the ground, going faster than a walking pace or ANYTHING.

Why? I guess people have this thing with acting mature or something. I don't see what the deal is with that. I mean, we moved to the town three years or so ago, so I can't any more, but if I could, I would STILL sit in a treehouse and spy on people in the distance with my TOMY Telescope. We had a look out post (We sat on the roof) and looked out for people on the horizons. Mostly it was just cows and sheep. And if we saw a farmer clogging along ten fields away, we'd go undercover, tie the branches down so they covered the treehouse, and hide (while spying all the time).

Uh, bit off topic, but my point is... I miss that.

I was also born in London, so I tell you now, I am no farmer! Although I have grown rather partial to the smell of cow poop.

Okay, I am sooo joking.

It's very depressing that when I hang out with other girls, they talk about guys the whole time. I mean, I like guys. I do. But I also like other stuff. Like computers and trees. Okay by trees I mean activities in general.  Everything. But whenever I try and hang out with guys (Who tend to talk mostly about videogames where I come from) they think I'm coming on to them.

Which is why I'd love to gang up with other females here that have the same love of ... stuff in general, and you can be the best friends I have, but never actually shared interests with.

Not that I'm excluding the guys or anything, but I don't want to start another argument about who'd win a Tekken Tournament  

Which is a funny story actually. My last boyfriend challenged me to a game of Tekken III, I won, so he challenged me to an arm wrestle, which I lost. Asshole.

What a random post.

EDIT: PS did anybody get the double meaning of my sig thingymedoodle?

[SLaMgRInDeR]

yeh i get it it, you dirty dirty woman.
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[Jimi]

heh... nice one...

one of the most fun things i used to do was find trees and find new ways to climb it.

it was great until my dad cut the "climbing branch" off the tree in our front yard. But i guess i had more time to practise my guitar then.

I also used to love walking across the fields behind my back yard witrh my friends...it was even more fun when the farmer chased us. those were the days.....

all my friends ever talk about at the moment is girls (a bit of topic there for you) and that got really boring.

[Meowster]

heh... nice one...

one of the most fun things i used to do was find trees and find new ways to climb it.

it was great until my dad cut the "climbing branch" off the tree in our front yard. But i guess i had more time to practise my guitar then.

I also used to love walking across the fields behind my back yard witrh my friends...it was even more fun when the farmer chased us. those were the days.....

Are you SERIOUS!?!??? We had the best tree EVER! It was like really bushy and easy to climb, but the only branch you could climb up on was this one that was all stretchy, somebody had to hold it down while everybody climbed up, and then you had to sort of jump real quick so that when it catapulted back up you LANDED on the branch, it was so cool! And we played pirates, we'd get on the end of the branch and wave it up and down, it was better than a bouncing castle! And then one of us would get off and really beat the SH*t out of the branch to make it fly about while we all tried to keep our balance on it!!! WOOT! I would STILL do that, only...

MY DAD CUT THE ENTIRE TREE DOWN!!!!

What's the deal with that!???

We had a cherry tree down the end of the garden that was almost as good though, but we had to cut away the blackberry bushes first because they'd tear you to pieces when you fell off it.

[Jimi]

Well, this tree was good. but i also got in trouble once because my dad looked up into the tree and found that I'd been watching people and writing down their conversations. I got into load sof trouble and he made me apologise to all of them. But that didn't stop me.  

One time, we got chased by the farmer in the fields, and I ran to my friends house, and tried to climb over his fences. i got over, only to find that the floor was COVERED in nettles. That was sooo funny.

The one thing i miss aswell, is playing hide and seek  where you have to tag the person. It was fun because i learned to jump REALLY far, and over my neighbours fence quicky so they couldn't get me.

[Meowster]

I love nettles. I mean I hate them, but you know, the smell of them reminds me of falling off high trees into nettles. Ha ha. I had this pony, she was evil. She was horny. she went totally insane when she heard male ponies. So she'd take off, with me on her back, and then stop, and I wouldn't be on her back any more. I'm surprised I'm not dead by now, but it was fun.

And have you ever caught fish with your hands? We have this little sticklebacks in this icy stream near where we used to live, and when they were in shallow water, if you were quick enough, you could catch them with your hands. Only the tiny baby ones though. I always released them because I hate killing things, except wasps. Oh yeah!

Wasps wasps wasps! I hate them so much. I've been stung by them sooo many times, in the head, in the hand, the leg, both thumbs, other places.... So one summer, after being terrorised by wasps enough, I took out our badminton raquets (UK spelling, you bastards) and PINGED them all. They'd come up to sting you, and you'd SWIPE them (I'm deadly at Tennis and Badminton) and they'd PING off the Raquet onto the floor, where I'd hunt them in their stunned state and KILL THEM. At first I used death jars, by crushing lorrel leaves which contain cyanide and putting them in there, because it was painless for them, but then one stung me so I just crushed them.

I must have killed HUNDREDS of wasps that year, and the population was never the same again... (for a few years)... You have no idea how much fun it is to PING wasps. They are evil, vile creatures and must be destroyed at all costs. Do not, however, confuse wasps with Honey Bees, which are deadly looking but essentially friendly creatures. And if you ever kill a bumble bee, I will hunt you and kill you.

PS: Hornets must also be killed, they are THREE TIMES the size of a wasp, look like a GIANT WASP, and sting like THREE TIMES A WASP STING. I learned this by assuming it was a friendly insect, as many insects disguise themselves as wasps as protection, because they are so friendly and harmless that if they didn't look deadly, people would eat them. A Hornet, apparently, looks like a wasp because it is essentially a VERY LARGE WASP.

PPS: Hoverflies are harmless and friendly creatures that look like small wasps. Do not kill them. They are endangered.

[Jimi]

I remember being three years old. i was on my climbing frame. I put my hand on a bar, and (not realising it) a wasp. i killed it, but i got stung. it felt extremely painful, 'cause i was only 3!

i also remember running into a field full of cows...most probably mating, because they were all on each other backs. i poked one with a stick (rather foolishly) and was chased. I fell into a stream wich was most likely full of cow crap because i stunk afterwards!

I found a wasps nest in shed once. I waskinda scared actually. there must have been hundereds of them all swarming around the nest. My dad waited until ight, and we followed him to the shed, where he cut the nest down, and threw it into the field. Then we ran like hell back inside 'caiuse they chased us.

I didn't know hoverflies were endangered. i'm glad i stopped someone from killing two of them the other day.

We had to go down to Wom brook for biology on wednesday, and collect some samples of insects. Since i was the only person who had wellys, i had to go into the brook. it was real fun. i got a detention because i kicked a load of water at a teacher who was holding some glass bottles which they "claim" are expensive. sure. i found a bullhead fish about 5 inches long too.

I've never seen a hornet. The worst thing ive seen kindo f like it was when i heard a massive buzzing. i looked out of the window to see LOADS of wasps swarming along the sky. it was beautiful, but at the same time wierd.

[Meowster]

hornets are like wasps, except bigger and more painful and also more fun to PING because they're so big they don't PING, they PUCK.

I got chased by a cow before. It sucked bootah.

[|Alky|]

And I'm not ugly!



Okay I sort of... you know, messed around with the eyes on that because I thought it looked funny, but if you imagine my eyes as being normal...

No, definatley not, but you might want to buy a different sort of contact lenses... ^_^

***

I kinda wish my tree was cut...
My dad refused to chop down our tree (It's like twice the size of the others), so our neighbour tried to cut it down when my parents were out... so I go outside, and I see this guy with a chainsaw and mask in our backyard... He fled, but it still scared the hell outta me... (I was only like 8 at the time...)

[m0ds]

I remember when my ex climbed a tree. I was more turned on that when she had her boobies out.

And it was me that made that comment! THATS how the ideal girl should be! She should like trespassing in old warehouses. Maybe. Well, I enjoy that, and a female version of me can't be that bad. Right?

Well, for me anyway?

Huh?

m0ds

[Meowster]

Is climbing trees indecent?

[m0ds]

It is when you've got ass in your face.

I always go second, see.


m0ds

[Meowster]

*realisation dawns*

...You mean... my whole life... I've just been the pawn in some evil... Tree Climbing Ass Game???

Oh my god.

Me and mods are gonna get on justtttt fine    

Even if the emoticons in this place are retarded.

[m0ds]

So that wasn't a cheeky grin smiley, that was a, "Hey, you lookin' at my ass " smiley? I getcha.

Sorry, Jim.


m0ds

[Meowster]

My name isn't Jim

[m0ds]

I was talking about Jimi, the n00b with the gr00ve. He likes you, I can see it in his eye! Don't let him tempt you into to visiting his treehouse.

Come to mine, its cool - it's designed to collapse at any moment too.

[Meowster]

Collapse? Oh dear, I wouldn't want wild, untamed (they're the same thing???) sex to knock down your wonderful tree house. Might wanna build foundations or whatever  .

Hang on a second!....

FOUND YOU!!!! *tags M0ds*.

[BOYD1981]

Collapse? Oh dear, I wouldn't want wild, untamed (they're the same thing???) sex to knock down your wonderful tree house. Might wanna build foundations or whatever  .

*builds treehouse with foundations*

[Meowster]

...It's my time of the month....  

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

How come everybody thought that I said that all women who use computers are ugly? I said that people are stereotyped to believe that but it's not true! Jebus, that would be calling myself ugly!

* Sasha  Kicks everybody in the nuts and slaps those who don't have nuts.

[Meowster]

I like you  

[Jimi]

me? groove? Ha!...oh....gr00ve....thats different.

Too right femme!

PS. supports on treehouses are boring. no fun in falling, getting hurt, and havng to rebuild it...and make it better.....and i don't have eyes...oh..wait..hmm...

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

A good thing to do is build the treehouses over aligator pits, crocodiles will do too. Then if you fall, it's double the fun!

[Jimi]

heh. or shark infested water! Thats as good as any roller coaster.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

You guys gave me an idea for an internet community! Female game developers!!!! Since Down Under Adventure Developers failed(it wasn't my fault!) maybe I should start something new.

[Jimi]

That would work, but everyone woukld want you to put pictures of boobs, etc on the site. I can't deny it.

[m0ds]

fourfatchicks.com ._.

Well the nail's head has been hit. Sasha, there are batrillions of good looking girls using the PC. Afterall, Adult Friend Finder wouldn't be what it is if all its users were munters.

Creating adventure games just isn't everyones cup of tea. My ex is a real townie who does all the typical "Im gorgeous" things like smoke, drink, hang with boys etc but there are certain things about her that also show she's still a normal person underneath (lol), she's a really good artist and she's writing a novel in her spare time at the moment, thats a talent.

As per usual, I don't understand what I've just written, so I think i'll just chase Yuffy and tag her back ^_^

m0ds

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

Sasha, there are batrillions of good looking girls using the PC.

That's what I BEEP meant. CAN'T PEOPLE READ?

[Jimi]

Actually, I guess its a pretty good idea. And you'd finally know how many females there are in the ags community.

[Meowster]

Yeah! And without the presence of females, all the males will crack and go insane so WE can take over the gaming community!

And then I will hypnotise Tim Schafer and Marry Him, provided I'm not already married to Bill Gates.

[Trapezoid]

<-------------------- Bill Gates

Are you hitting on me???  

[Meowster]

I have the biggest crush on Tim Schafer. I have the original MI1 Codewheel, and I stroke it every day.


PS: For those that do not know the story of the CodeWheel Warehouse, waayyyy back, in around 1990, they were releasing the first batch of MI games. The warehouse that packaged them wasn't going to have them ready to ship in time, so the entire LucasGames MI team went there in the middle of the night and packaged them themselves. All through the night, so they were ready for shipping tomorrow. So since I got my MI game from the first released batch... and there are approximately 20 people in the original team.... Tim Schafers sweat and blood alone pinned my codewheel and sealed by box, maybe.


PPS: Tim Schafer is HOTTT! So is Bill Gates.

[MachineElf]

I figure Yufster's attracted to older rich men, so you can all stop hitting on her now (I doubt there are any either old or rich men in the amateur adventure community... oh, I'm of course rich and ridiculously handsome, but I'm not old and will probably die young).

;)

[m0ds]

Damn!

* m0ds hits on Mr Panda instead

[Meowster]

Tim Schafer isn't rich He's just delightfully childish. (great, now I sound like a female peadophile. can't molest kids, so the next best thing is Tim Schafer.)

Bill Gates because he's so misunderstood and sensitive. He needs people to love him. Who wants to hear my story about the Evil Apple Company?

[m0ds]

I'd love to but how can you gurantee I wont get an exception error half way through?

m0ds

[Meowster]

One day, Bill Gates got a Cream Pie thrown in his face as he was preparing for a meeting outside a large establishment. The pie, he reported, did not taste very good.

He was ridiculed by pictures released by shameless and hilarious newspapers, with frozen frames of his shock seconds before the pie was due to explode on his face.

Afterwards, rival, crappier company, Apple made a last ditch attempt to win back users who were NOT retarded by making an ad campaign featuring a Bill Gates Lookalike getting a pie in the face.

This ad was misinterpreted by the general Public, and the sale of Apple Pies increased worldwide.

Bill Gates continues to be the richest man in the world.

Nobody knows any rich people who work for Apple. If they exist, they shamefully hang their heads in public. Who knows, maybe one day they will work for Microsoft. Everybody is given the chance to repent. Even people who dedicate many hours to typing "BILL GATES SUX0RZ L33T5P33K A55!!!!!" into guestbooks and forums. Those who do not repent will have to work for Apple, which does not suppy swimming pools and playgrounds for staff.

My tea has gone cold and I must make more. Excuse me.

[m0ds]

EXCEPTION ERROR #55077





Nice story, gal.

[MachineElf]

Oh, who said Apple were saints?

Well, of course Li'l Bill needs people who love him, don't we all?
But Microsoft IS BEEP evil.

[Meowster]

What brand of coffee do you drink, and what's your favourite chocolate bar?

[MachineElf]

Oh, don't get me there...
Well, at least Phillip Morris and Nestlé don't install spyware on my computer. Yet.
Ok, sorry, saying Microsoft is fucking evil was a bad way of putting things. What I mean is that their crave for better budget is starting to go out of hand, as for many other companies.

Heard anything about the Palladium/TCPA project?
That's scary stuff...

Interesting reading:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Make what you want out of it.

[Meowster]

I say Microsoft is the Robin Hood of the computer industry. It steals from the rich to give to the rich.

Also, did you hear about the Print Cartridges Scandel???

OMG I READ THAT PAGE, THE ENTIRE PAGE, AND I'M SCARED.

What's the world gonna be like in 20 years?!?

[BOYD1981]

i think it'll be like Blade Runner, in which case i can't wait!

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

I think that Bill Gates is evil because he releases crappy buggy software that costs cha-ching! $$$$ more money than it's worth and their software has leaky memory and the first Windows 95 was so buggy you couldn't install it at all because it would crash and Windows has bugs!!!!</rant>  

[Trapezoid]

I wonder how many people would say stuff like that if there wasn't an internet... Disliking Microsoft is one of the most prevailing internet trends there is

[Layabout]

This is like the craziest thingy thread i have read! It has everything. Like trees and uh... trees.  I've climbed some trees in my time.

Speaking of trees, why is it that everytime a new member of the ags forums, who happens to be a chick always gets hit on. Particuarly by Mark... There is something to think about.

And lesbians...

...

Thats a pretty cool word. My pretend girlfriend (i cant really call her my girlfriend cause she is a prisoner in a relationship she is desparate to get out of but is having trouble actually tellling him to get fucked) kisses her best friend and by kisses i mean gets with. And that is way cool. Like it doesnt bother me. It doesnt necessarily turn me on or anything, but it's cool.

And microsoft. I havent paid for any of their products so i have no problem with them.

ON to the big thing. Sex.

Like sex is pretty cool. I've had sex in my time and it's never been a bad thing. So just find someone and make sweet love to them.

And that is all

If anyone can make any sense of this post, please tell me what it means. Cause i cant understand alot of the posts in this thread, i thought i'd do a bit of the same. A nonsensical post.

Tada

[MachineElf]

Well, Yufster, 20 years or now. Time just passes faster the older you get... All I want to say is that one should at least _think_ about the alternatives, not just stick to one large corporation.

But saying Mr Gates or Microsoft is evil is not very constructive, you've definately got a point there. I think it has a lot to do about people's frustration. Things don't work as they should and you have to find a scapegoat. Bill Gates is such a celebrity in the buisiness that it's natural to blame him. He's probably as nice a person as anyone around here, living out his dreams, but there are still things about large corporations trying to control the industry that troubles me, especially if they're close to succeed.

(or I've just read too much SF for my own good ;) )

Trap: Well, if there wasn't Internet... Oh, we could go far on that subject. Sure it's kind of a trend, especially in circles of 15 year old 1337 |-|4(|<32Z, but I think it's more to do with people's frustration, as I stated above.

Uh, has this discussion gone far out of topic or what? :)

PS Sorry for bitching with you, Yufster, hope you don't take it personally!

[m0ds]

No Layabout, how come your posts always include sex0r? I am not hitting on Yufster I am talking to her.

I've had sex in my time and it's never been a bad thing.

Was it you or DG that had the 14 yr olds hitting on them?

m0ds

[Ben]

I'm pretty sure that was Layabout. Kind of an odd thing to talk about on the internet, don't you think?  

[m0ds]

Yeah, but bloody funny

[DGMacphee]

Nobody knows any rich people who work for Apple. If they exist, they shamefully hang their heads in public.

Does the word 'Pixar' mean anything to you?

No Layabout, how come your posts always include sex0r? I am not hitting on Yufster I am talking to her.

I've had sex in my time and it's never been a bad thing.

Was it you or DG that had the 14 yr olds hitting on them?

m0ds

That was Layabout -- Mine was the 'camel story'.

[Jimi]

I prefer microsoft. Apples don't like me.

[Ben]

Well, since this is the AGS forum, that centers around a Windows program, I think it's safe to say that most of us here prefer Microsoft. Except for Gilbert.. But he's a psychopath

[Jimi]

Oh yeah. He is.   Apples never seem to do what i want them to do, and i sent my mom e-mails (to her apple at work) and she ever got them. They don't like me at all.

[|Alky|]

100th post... ^_^
Man, I'm sad...

[Meowster]

I love Windows, I love Microsoft Software, and I commend Bill Gates. If it wasn't for him alone we wouldn't have an awful lot of the programs and software we have today, and certainly if it wasn't for him and his computer geek college friends, we'd probably only be on 386's right now. He found a way to harness the power of the Supercomputer.

I think he's probably a really nice man. Think about it. He has a nice family, he gives loads to charity. He doesn't just do that for publicity, because he doesn't make a public thing out of it. There are some people who really want to help. If I was rich, I'd definately give to charities, but would that mean I was doing it for publicity? He also drinks milk, and no evil man could drink milk because it would turn sour in their stomachs.

He loves programming and computers. I'd go as far as to say I think we'd all get along with him just fine.

At the moment I'm unsure about this new 'palledonium' thing, but that doesn't change my views that Bill Gates is an ordinary human being, and Microsoft is an ordinary empire company. Of course I wish they had bigger, better competitors so that when Intel and Microsoft introduce their new SPY computers, we wouldn't have to buy them. On the other hand, Microsoft have time and time again produced excellent software, even if it HAS crushed the small timers.

[Jimi]

When you think about it, Bill Gates is a lot like Various kings and queens of Britain. Hes gone out of his way to get his empire, and wouldn't give it up without a fight. And, if microsoft were as bad as people say, why is Bill gates richer than the queen? He should be knighted or something. It'd make me happey.

I've always said that if I was richer than a normal person, I'd give just under half of my money to charities. Probably NSPCC. Those adverts are really depressing.

[Meowster]

I'd give my money to animal charities and create a 100 square mile safe haven for Red Squirrels and Wrens. Also blue tits and coal tits.

[Meowster]

I would also create Microscopic, and release a new operating system called Microscopic XPerience (commonly known as Microscopic XP), and release a word processor (Words) and Microscopic Office 2000 with it. Then I would release an Xbocks Gaming System and legally rename myself William Henry Gates the III, better known as Bill Gates.

[Jimi]

Actually, I'd start my own...BIG charity.

PS: I THOCKED a wasp yesterday with a hockey stick. It attacked me.

[Pumaman]

The thing is though, when you've got $10 billion in your pocket, what else can you do with it but give it to charity

[Jimi]

he could give it to Apple, but thats just like giving it to charity.

[Meowster]

Ha ha.

You have to use a badminton or Tennis raquet for wasps. Hockey sticks don't have enough PING in them. Wasps need to be PINGED or TWOCKED, they can't be THOCKED, it doesn't have enough ZING.

Larger animals can be THOCKED, for instance, cows. Humans tend to prefer SOCKS.

[Jimi]

Cows are best being whipped with a wet towel.

[Matt Brown]

I dont like mircosoft. or rather, not as much anymore.

Yes, they made windows, which at first blew. Later, they tried to go along with IBM and make OS/2, which looks a lot like windows 3.1 Microsoft screwed IBM uup the butt, too the ideas, and ran. Then they made windows 3.1, which took off. They have owned the operating system ever since.

and i didnt care. Until I began to program.

Windows is buggy. Microsoft doesnt care. when you have a 98% market share, and are willing to kill for the other 2%, why care about quality? They become bloodthirsty, lusting for further domination into our homes. They make the XBox, and are trying to turn it into the all-in-one home entertainment system. No more stereos, video games, DVDs...all instead owned by mircosoft. bugs and all.

I dont trust this company. nor do I trust gates

[Meowster]

I don't trust Microsoft, I just think they earned what they got and have done a pretty good job. I also use most of their programs and find little fault in them.

If, however, they implement this new Fritz chip and spy sh!t thing, I may consider making a move to Linux and AMD (god HELP me). Because I certainly don't like handing my personal life in word format to Bill Gates or anybody else, no matter HOW much milk he drinks.

[Matt Brown]

right. I would have switched....but, I cant figure out linux. Plus, Mircosoft "owns" or had extensive parterships with many leading software companies, so I couldnt play their games. (often this kind of deal ruins game companies. look at dreamworks. they cranked out a great adventure game in the neverhood. Mircosoft's medling made the game 60$ everywhere, the game bombed, the team broke up...now they make aracde shoot 'em ups. a tragety.)

[Meowster]

My eyes are bleeding, I think I should close them.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

The reason everybody disses Bill Gates is because he's he face of the ass that is microsoft. If you want to make fun of US politics you make fun of Bush. If you want to make fun of croc hunters you make fun of Steve Irwin. If you want to make fun of microsoft you make fun of Bill Gates.

[Trapezoid]

I still stand by my argument that 97% of the people who make fun of Microsoft do it because they heard someone else doing it.

[Sluggo]

And lesbians... Thats a pretty cool word.

K, back on the lesbian subject...the word lesbian is derived from a Greek island called Lesbos (or Lesvos in modern Greek), where the female poet Sappho is from. She wrote love poems sometimes between two females and that's where the name comes from. Also, inhabitants from Lesbos (all female I think) were supposedly the most beautiful women in the world. So yeah, it's a pretty cool word.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

Yeah, some of Sappho's poems sounded cool. "We came together like two drops of water" and stuff like that. Really shows that homosexuality is not a "new" thing...

[Timosity]

Also, inhabitants from Lesbos (all female I think) were supposedly the most beautiful women in the world. So yeah, it's a pretty cool word.

And that's where it ended, cause they couldn't find a way to reproduce, now the standed has dropped off, "although my next door neighbour, she's hot, pitty"- and most of the pornstar lesbians/bi-sexuals are really straight women getting paid alot of money.


Microsoft is a great company, that also can be criticised for releasing stuff too fast, the reason being deadlines, and also the fact that they can use the internet to release patches as an excuse to cover up their fuck ups.

They are quite cruel though not letting the old stuff be used on the newer systems, so you have to update your software, so they program there own products along with everyone elses to be useless on the latest machines, (well after a few years)

But other people might think they are smart doing this from a sales point of view, there aren't too many companies that have been successful taking on microsoft, and they still haven't overtaken them.

Maybe that can be CJ's next task


Back to the Seagull lesbians, sounds original, is there gonna be one butch one and a hot one, just like in real life?

I don't get that either, why do good looking lesbians find a woman that looks like a bloke anyway, It makes you think that somewhere subconciously they really want a man. If I was a hot lesbian, I'd want a hot girlfriend, I think I would be attracted to good looking girls not girls that look and dress like men. (I thought my neighbours girlfriend was a guy until I heard her speak and saw her up close)

I guess I can't really talk being a hetro male, I'll wait till my neighbour finds a goodlooking one before I try for a threesome. j/k

(I grew up with this girl, known her for 22 years, and she's a really nice girl, and her girlfriend is a nice girl too damnit, )

Seagulls, interesting, never really thought about sexuality of other animals, maybe it will show the irrelevance of sexuality, in the broader scheme of things.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

Dwarf chimpanseees, the closest animals to humans are often homosexual. Those things spend most of their day having sex but they have a very low rate of birth.

[Jimi]

animals are evrthing that humans are...homosexual, suicidal, homicidal...you name it, they do it!

[Trapezoid]

What about Furryphilia?

[Jimi]

What's that? A furry dildo?

[Trapezoid]

Furryphilia, what I consider the modern world's most inexplicable subculture.

Here are some fine examples of Furryphiles:

[Matt Brown]

i've never heard of animals killing themselves on purpose...sure, lemmings may do it sometime,s but thats cause they are too stupid, and they just march, one after another, into the sea.

[Trapezoid]

Yeah, and even that's just an urban legend.

[Jimi]

so....the lemmings in "lemmings" aren't real?.....*sniff*

[Timosity]

Whales are known to beach themselves on occasions, and there is not much evidence why, are they depressed? did their sonar fuck up? maybe they betrayed their god? who knows.

I heard an interesting story about a place in western Australia where many whales have beached themselves, and it wasn't far from a submarine base, it was possible that the sonar was messing with their own signals and it is just a mistake.

also maybe they are drugged by all the pollution near land that we send out to sea, and it messes with thier brains.

We'll probably never find out.

[Jimi]

Whales probably got thier sonar mixed up with that of the sub base, and ended up all washed up on the beaches.

[bspeers1000]

What? Animals don't commit suicide?

When a cat is extremely ill, it will go off on its own to die, will not move and await death.  The same goes for many other animals.

If you touch a hamster's newborn whelps, it will freak out, and to prevent you from doing so, it will eat all the babies.  Not suicide, but similar instinct.

But it's a mistake to think that if an animal doesn't do it it wouldn't be natural.  Humans are themselves natural.  We're not robots.  So anything we do is natural.  That doesn't mean it's good or bad.  Elephants are nearly as destructive as humans.  Does that mean it's okay to smash down rainforests?  If ants didn't build huge, complex structures, would it be wrong for us to do so?  If parots didn't speak, could we?

Everything humans do is natural.  Some of it, like chemical warfare and clearcutting is harmful to our own ecosystem (and thus our own survival), while some, like gay sex, is beneficial to population levels.

[|Alky|]

The suicide thing's not true...
The whales are trying to take over Australia...
They built the sub base to try and stop them...
And you thought the kangaroos were scary..

[Jimi]

This threads kinda lost all meaning..oh well...

Maybe they see aystrailia as a threat?

Its femme...shes killing them.

[Timosity]

Good points Bspeers,

I also think Humans think they are outside nature for some reason, eg. When we introduce a species of plant or animal to a different country, we call it an introduced species, and it is not natural to that environment. It's like we exclude ourselves from nature as though we're not part of it.

If a bird eats a seed and flies to another country, shits, the seed from that sprouts and introduces a new plant to that country, we consider that part of the natural course of nature, how is that any different???

Sure, we might conciously do it, but that doesn't mean it's not part of natural progression of nature. It also doesn't mean that it will be a good idea to introduce the new species, how many fuckups have we caused already, but still, it's happened, therefore it's natural.



Yes, and back on topic, there are many females here but as usual, all the males scare them off

[|Alky|]

Yes, and back on topic, there are many females here but as usual, all the males scare them off

Yes, and back off topic, there are many males here but as usual, all the whales scare them off

[Meowster]

I actually had a book about animal homosexuality, it had a PHOTOGRAPH of two male OCTUPUSSIES mating.

You'd think that male horses would do other male horses, because after a few seasons of 'activity', mating female horses must be like throwing a sausage up an alley.

[Jimi]

I know cows have loads of lesbians. I was trying to film a skateboarding video ages ago, and everytime we went to film, I heard a "mo0000000000000000000" when i turned the camera, i saw one cow ON TOP of the other. It kept happening. When I said to my frined: I think they are trying to have lesbian sex, my friend simply pointed over my shoulder, and when i turned around, some...politition blke was standing there. It scared the shit outta me.

[Meowster]

Cows actually do that to show they're ready to mate. Female cows mount other female cows to demonstrate to the Bull that they're horny, and Bulls mount Bulls to demonstrate they're horny and also in the hope of getting some tight young bull ass. This I was told by a farmer.

Bullocks (Castrated bulls) mount other Bullocks because they don't know what else to do.

[Jimi]

These cows were making humping movements, until the bottom cow kept moving away. It was being raped. Its mentally scared, and it'll never have babies...or is that because its being humped by another female??? A farmer wouldn't tell me anything the amount of times hes chased me, and the amount of times i've whipped his cows.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

It's now believed that homosexuals are born homosexual and that it's in the genes and it's actually physicaly detectable, so why can't animals be homosexual? many genetical characteristics of humans are shared by animals, you won't belive how many genes humans share with mice, over 90%.

[Trapezoid]

That's the thing though, how can it be genetic? The genes wouldn't get passed on...
That's why it makes me wonder if evolution is more complicated than random mutations and gene inheriting. If homosexuality is indeed supposed to be population control, it suggests, er.... "smart" evolution, which probably isn't what Darwin was going for...

This reminds me of a song about a great folk hero.
Running free...running free...running faggot. Running faggot running free; see the faggot, see the running faggot, running faggot running free.
Running faggot running free; see the faggot he fed a puppy, running faggot running free.
Running faggot running; he stopped the carnage by gettin' folks a talkin' 'stead just a sqawkin', sqawkin' and a gawkin', mockin' and a rockin', running free.
Running faggot, running free; see the faggot running from the rednecks, running free. Run you faggot run you! Run you faggot run you! Run you faggot running free.
--Kids in the Hall

[Las Naranjas]

It's found most commonly in social animals, and animals that rely on communities for survival.

And it's most commonly found in humans and bonobos (pygmy chimps) which have amongst the most complex social systems.

Which implies what we already know, that only a small part of sex is to do with reproduction. The vastly larger part of it is part of the social structure which we depend on more than anything else for our survival.

[Timosity]

That's the thing though, how can it be genetic? The genes wouldn't get passed on...

In theory, that seems right, but how many Homosexuals have kids of their own, either before they decided (came to terms with) they were homosexual or through IVF (probably illegally) or just by putting up with hetro sex for the sake of procreation,Therefore they are still reproducing and have been ever since the dawn of time, so it is genetically possible and probable. (doesn't mean the parent is homosexual, they just may carry a gene that contributes to that, or both might carry the certain genes, therefore more chance in having a homosexual child.

Cancer is a huge problem in our society, and will probably never be wiped out, maybe curable, though a lot of it is due to genetics, and the problem with cancer is it can hit at any age, therefore millions/billions of people reproduce before they get the cancer, and multiply this since the dawn of time, and it's no wonder that everybody seems to die from it if something else doesn't get them first.

Which one wil I get first, Lung, Bowl, Testicular, prostate, It's interesting that More people are aware of Breast cancer and it is more likely curable if found early cause of screening.

Marketing(if you call it that) of womens health has been more successful than mens, and women are more likely to see a Doctor for a mamogram or papsmear, yet men don't get there testes or prostate checked (usually until it's too late) yet these cancers are just as common. I guess breasts are just easier to market.

Women probably care about themselves more, and guys just think, "Yeah, I'll be right, no wucken furry's"

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

It's not always one gene but often the combination of the genes.
Men can check themselves for testicle cancer as easily as women can check their breasts for lumps but from what I've heard guys don't like the idea of rolling their nuts between their fingers in front of a mirror.

[evenwolf]

And that's why we spend hours each day doing it? Haha, check your facts!

[DGMacphee]

Here's a theory:

When I was studying to be a teacher, one of the possibilities we learned in terms of homosexuality was that there is not just a binary opposition of hetrosexual/homosexual, but varying degrees of sexuality between the two extremes. (Obviously, as people can claim to be bisexual)

But I'm interested to know if genetics determine not only hetro and homo, but bi, semi-bi, bi-curious, etc, etc, etc

Interesting thought.

[Timosity]

Interesting theory DG,

And quite possibly a realistic answer,

And Sasha, I never mentioned just one gene, If you were referring to my reference as I said "both might carry the certain genes"

[Las Naranjas]

Well, you know I think we're all bi beneath our socialisation DG.

* Las Naranjas rolls his nuts

[Andail]

That's the thing though, how can it be genetic? The genes wouldn't get passed on...

The genes wouldn't get passed on from the homosexual individual, naturally. But hypothetically, we could assume that groups of people long time ago had better chances of surviving if they weren't over-populated. Therefore, a population where each individual has a remote chance of becoming homo-sexual, could survive other groups that spread too fast for their resources to suffice.

And regarding DG:s theory (I'm curious about in what subject you studied this? Sounds interesting):
Liberated people tend to claim that all people can be bi-sexual, if they and society allow them to realize this. If they come out of the closet, you know. I'm pretty convinced that all people can learn to become attracted to most anything, if society tells them to. Men, women, and, heaven forbid - children and why not animals.
People who rant on straight people for being narrow-minded for not accepting their bisexuality, haven't seen far enough; anything is possible, if you can accept it.

[Las Naranjas]

Or the gene could be regressive.

But I don't think there's a gay gene. Just perhaps a number that make you more prone to it.

[plasticman]

hmm...

DC-Match 5 (Alcaline/Vel vs Plasticman/Leksutin )
« on: 05 May 2003, 16:32 »  

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The topic is:

Heterosexuality is just a social convention. Bisexuality is the natural way.

Plasticman and Leksutin agree, and get the first post

i knew this sounded familiar.

[GarageGothic]

I'm currently writing a thesis on the representation of bisexuality in movies, so I've spent a lot of time studying the theories of the sexual continuum. I was just reading about the two sociological approaches to the gay/straight binary: The essentialist one, which assumes that sexual orientation is somehow defined by nature, and the social constructionist one, which argues that homo- and heterosexual identity and behaviour are social roles, society's structuring to define a well defined "other".

Interestingly, the idea of a gay brain or a gay gene (which has not, I should add, been proven in any way) seems to be most popular with scientist who themselves are gay. There seems to be a need to justify a same-sex object choice by claiming it to be a condition rather than a choice. The logic being that you can't discriminate people, if they can't help what they are. And that actually seems to be the case. Statistics show that people who believe that sexual orientation is an in-born quality, are much more comfortable with gay people as teachers etc. (it's not contagious, they won't turn your children gay) than those who consider it a choice (some of those wouldn't even fly on an airplane with a gay pilot!) So yes, maybe the essentialist approach is one way to deal with homophobia.

But in my opinion, it's a cop-out, which misses the whole point of the discussion. Why search for the causes of homosexuality (or heterosexuality for that matter)? And how will you use the conclusions you reach? If you DO discover that it's hereditary, should we try to eliminate these genes?
Why aren't people asking if it's genetic to dislike brussel sprouts, or if vegetarians have different brains than meat eaters? And why is sexuality considered a static state when it's quite obvious that tastes can change with time - A few years ago I hated tea, now I drink four or five cups a day. Why is sexual object choice treated as so much more important than - not to mention different from - other matters of taste and preference? Because it's related to the structuring of gender difference, to patriarchal rule and thus to economics and society as a whole?

I think we're asking the wrong questions here, that's all I'm saying.

[DGMacphee]

Las: I'm thinking that maybe both socialisation and genetics have an affect.

There's proof on both accounts and neither disqualifies the other.

Andail: I'm racking my brain trying to remember which class it was.

I think it was one on basic human development.

The type of class where you study theories of Piaget, Eriksen, Kohlberg, Gardner, etc

It was for a teaching degree (incompleted).

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

That's sociology.
I'm quite comfortable with gay people, Most of my friends are either gay or bi. My best friend is bi. The people who I eat my lunch with are bi. The people I eat my lunch with at school are bi.They got into a kind of a war with the school chaplain. One girl left the faith because she is bi. As soon as her friends found out she was put under alot of stress. I don't really care whether it's genes or choise, my teacher told me it's genes so I believed her. I was comfortable with my friends before my teacher told me that and at that time I thought it was choise. Homophobia is the new racism, what else can I say.

[Trapezoid]

I'm starting to feel like the genetic explaination doesn't make so much sense. The cavement who were more prone to mate with the cavegirls had more children. Simple as that. Homosexuality and bisexuality don't make sense, so they're more likely a social quirk caused by fine details that we'll probably never understand. Just EXISTING causes so many ebbs and flows on your personality, and don't get me started on puberty. So maybe it should be no surprise that some people end up being attracted to their own sex than the opposite.
That said, I somehow doubt that most of Femme Fatale's friends are gay or bi... Unless either A. she deliberately seeks them out, or B. it's, er... slightly more "trendy" to be "open-minded" about one's sexuality at her school.

[Matt Brown]

yeah trap, I agree. Some people are like that here just to piss off their parents, or b/c they are bitter about something. really.

"what? I'm grounded? What, Im bitter about something...I'll go tell everybody Im gay to embarrass you and get you kicked out of church and shuned from teh community!"


sadly, thats the way things work where I live

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

Actually, most bi people in my school are outcasts.They're my friends first. They told me after I've known most of them for more than 6 months.

[Trapezoid]

In that case, it's not so suspicious. I'd rather hang out with the outcasts than the, uh, incasts.
But I do think the 10% figure is way overestimated.

[Evil]

Three forths of my family is homosexual and my mom grew up in a house of 8 and I have quite a few second cousins. It could possably be a gene or a family thing. I'm not gay and half of my Aunts and Uncles are. So it goes to show you... We still dont know...

[undergroundling]

Personally, I think bisexuality in most cases is bullshit.  Granted, there are certainly people who are bisexual, but I've known far too many people who claim/claimed to be bisexual but they "prefer" one sex or the other.  In my school, the general group of people who claim to be bisexual are doing it for attention or because they think its "different."  Many gay people say they're bisexual because they don't want to or are afraid to admit that they are homosexual.

So, I'm sure there are plenty of bisexuals in the world, but in my personal experience, it's either a trendy thing to say or a cop-out for people who don't want to admit being gay.

- Bryan

[Necro]

Soo whats the female count ... to.... animals, furriphilia and homosexualism this is one off topic thread.

I was a mere passer by and ive just read 8 , count them EIGHT pages of off topic stuff...

lets see if we can make it 16!

[Meowster]

It's not like this thread isn't educational.

Anyway, consider it the... Workers Union of AGS! Think, no Admin or Mod would DARE shut this down! Think of the revolt! It would be like taking candy from a baby...  france in a war Freedom from Asylum Seekers! We can plot mutinies against Chris Jones and EVERYTHING on this thread.

[Jimi]

we had a mutiny on IRC yesterday. sooo much fun. We tortured roger and everything. *sigh* But..there wsn't really a mod there, so it wasn't to hard.

[Meowster]

....IRC? Where?!!!!!!!!!

[GarageGothic]

But I do think the 10% figure is way overestimated.

According to the Kinsey report 26% of women by the time they are 45 has had some homosexual experience, whereas about 50% of men have. These are the numbers I have at hand now. I'm not sure if these figures are sexual encounters to the point of orgasm. I seem to remember that that figure was a bit lower, but certainly over 40%. I won't argue that few of these people would call thelmselves gay or bi, but behaviour and identity are different things.

Personally, I think bisexuality in most cases is bullshit. Granted, there are certainly people who are bisexual, but I've known far too many people who claim/claimed to be bisexual but they "prefer" one sex or the other.

So by your definition, the attraction to each of the sexes must be equal for a person to be a bisexual? No wonder it's easy to dismiss bisexuality if you see 0-2 on the Kinsey scale as straight and 4-6 as gay. Tell me this: If you preferred, say, brunettes, and you met this incredible person who had all the qualities you could wish for in a partner except she was a blonde, would you totally abandon all interest you had in her, just because of her hair color?
Of course you can prefer one sex or the other, just like you can prefer people with a certain hair color, people who are into certain types of music, or who dress in a certain style of clothing. All these things matter, as do thousands of other little details, and yes, we all have preferences. But to let them get in the way of your happiness is plain silly. To me, being bi means that gender doesn't matter any more than hair color or other external factors. In my opinion, hetero- as well as homosexuality is gender-fetischism where gender suddenly overrides all other qualities, external as well as internal.

Many gay people say they're bisexual because they don't want to or are afraid to admit that they are homosexual.

That's funny. In my experience it's the other way around, that bi people identify outwardly as gay, not to be excluded from the gay community, leading to funny identities such as "lesbians who sleep with men". And while it might not be the case in a college environment, people in general seem to be much more uncomfortable with bisexuals than with gays - while gay people are being domesticated, marrying, adopting kids and becoming "straights with a twist", bisexuals are still seen as sexual outlaws, as promiscuous, non-monogamous and spreaders of AIDS.

I could go on, but I won't, since this is so much off-topic from the original thread. It's just that these statements really piss me off, you know.

[Gemmalah]

the age of 14, girls seem to lose interest in climbing trees and generally being adventurous.

dunno i still like climbing trees, skuba diving, sandcastles, i'm 17. but then again gurkin and chocolate spread omlettes do that to you.
girtls can do what ever they want to all well and good is they want to be girly and well if they don't to be honest i don't and i also like computers, can crash one within 5 minutes.

*checks out mental age is ashamed*

[Matt Brown]

half of guys have had a homosexual experieance??? If this means, wondering what if would feel like, or muttering, "that guy is cute" or something, I can belive that. but if that means actually having sex, (which I'm assuming it does), I still find this hard to belive. what country was the study in?

[Meowster]

I'm straight and I say stuff like, "That girl is hot!" or "Oh my god, look at her legs" the whole time. Mostly out of envy though, but I guess people could construe that as lesbianism. Is Construe a word?

[panda_different computer]

well, I think its a bit different for guys. most girls that I know say things like that. I suppose it has to do with girls being more secure about that sort of thing.


and construe is a word. dunno if its spelled right. I have no idea

[GarageGothic]

Mr. Panda: I checked up the numbers from Kinsey's "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" (the ones I mention were quoted in another book). The survey is of white American males in 1948 - the results of the female survey were published in 1953. Paraphrasing the report:

At least 37% of the male population have at least some overt homosexual experience leading to orgasm between the beginning of adolescence and old age.

The 50% mentioned previously includes experiences not leading to orgasm as well as homosexual psychic arousal.

I couldn't find the numbers for females in the hurry (I did find the statistics for sexual experiences with animals, but that's another matter... ), but they are somewhat lower, around 20% as I recall.

[Jimi]

yeah. If a guy was to say another guy wass really good-looking, they'd most likely be beaten up.

[Meowster]

But that's stupid

[Jimi]

yup. but its life. Someone at school said something like that. I think he got a transfer to another school because the bullying was bad.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

I know a few gay guys. They are very feminine acting. One of them dyes his hair every month and thinks he's a witch.

[Meowster]

LMAO I love gay guys! There's two where I work, they're SO fashionable! And they're dead funny! I think it's because they're so outrageous or something, but the only gay guys I've ever met are brilliant. And Graham Norton! ROTFL. Gay guys, while being triple horny, are triple funny also

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

A bi guy I know is damn funny! I don't like it when he slaps my ass though. But he's damn funny!

[Trapezoid]

Well, here's another thing to discuss. Do you think some gay guys act femmy because they think they're supposed to?

[Jimi]

dunno. but gay guys are very funny.

[c.leksutin]

Ding-ding-ding

It's the gen-gen gestapo.  The is going waaay off topic, this thread should have been wrapped up in 2 pages, MAX.


C.