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Oooooh! I see, there is an "r" in spite of a "d"! 

Nacho please, allow me to have that phrase in my signature.. xD..there.

Great sites, especially the first one,Ã, 

Please, mention who I am talking about, otherwise someone could think I am talking of CJ or something...

I think it' s quite clear that if the debate comes to "Is Bush an idiot or not?" we will all move to "yes", so, end of "exciting" discussion for me.Ã, 

And as that's the case, I think I can add these links without being killed immediatly:
http://www.maxmin.ws/bush/bush_content.html
http://www.stupidedia.org/stupi/Bild:Affentheater.JPG

Well, one think is not liking him, and the other is making humour of the retarder people!  I don' t agree!

I think it' s quite clear that if the debate comes to "Is Bush an idiot or not?" we will all move to "yes", so, end of "exciting" discussion for me. 

Well, I' ve read all the logs, and there is a bit of all. My "initial feelings" were correct, and there is more than what PMdee said.

*I still think that "essentially" PMdee is right and there have been some unfair bans* but well... it' s been more a joke and a little punishment to someone who has been annoying. Nothing to make a mountain about.

I am not too sure about Maniac... I miss a good warning before the ban, but they were just some hours, nothing really serious. I sense good feelings with Hajo and Maniac Ã,  Sure that both piss offs (the ban by the one, and the angry PM by the other) will be arranged with a e-shake of hands.

And Ishmael... Saying "they pay for it, they can ban whoever they want" has 0 rationalism. Redouce it to the absurd. If they start banning everytime someone enter, in less than a week no one will even attempt to enter.

My opinion: If we admit the level of "stupidity required" to get a ban in AGS forums as the "normal", then we must conclude that the level in IRC is too low.

Maniac was being, probably, a bit annoying, but sometimes IRC channel are quiet for hours, and a druk pal to makes jokes with can be quite refreshing... I've been in IRC and many times people start playing the fool for no other reason than boredom. Also, maybe there was a private chat between Maniac and Hajo we hadn' t news of, but if there wasn't... man, I don' t see a propper "behave propperly or I' ll ban you" warning in the chat.

Zoot mentioned the ops may ban drunk people.
Zoot says: "hajo please"
And Hajo says "Maniac, go to bed"

And that is quite lost in 17 lines of text... as said, not a very direct warning.

Also, if PMdee is telling the truth and the things went like this (fictional recreation):

Dez 04 03:46:37 PMDEE enters in #AGS
Dez 04 03:46:40 <Hajo> PMDEE! Yes or no?
Dez 04 03:46:53 <PMDEE> Eeer. No?
Dez 04 03:46:58 <Hajo>oh well, you don't have a choice. bye!"
Dez 04 03:57:12 <-- Hajo has kicked PMDEE from #AGS (Hajo)

Then... we have a clear abbuse of power. I am not going to take a position because sometimes, when some complains about other person, this first guy starts an "urban legend" which has nothing to see with the reality. I' ll wait till reading Hajo' s version. He allways seemed a good guy and I am sure his version will differ a lot from PMDEEs.

But:

If PMDEE' s version results to be completelly real, well, I don' t think that there's a need to make a mountain about this, Hajo was probably making a (IMO, failed) joke, there' s no need to crucify anyone... but then my opinion would move to: "Ops... relax a bit"

And well... Tuomas... We all know him. He is like this dirty old dog we rescue from the street. It smells bad, it pukes in your sofa and poos in your carpet, but you can't stop loving him. Ã, 

I don' t go picking word by word to reply to posts.... I just take the spirit of the posts, and reply to them consequently.

And the spirit of your post is definitelly anti-american in the most negative way. I was quite sure that you were going to reply in a politically correct way saying "I looooove America, and all the americans, but I hate Bush" but, well... You' ll have to work harder to convince me that you areÃ,  this "relaxed" IKARI version 2.0 and not the one I "noticed" firstly. I am open to it, though.

Don't worry, anyway, hating the powerfull country has historically been the rest of the world' s sport. You are just one more.

I dont know who are you talking about, my national heroes are nobel prices and/or inventors noone talks aboutÃ, 
And who are you talking about when you say terrorist?

I was talking to Ché Guevara, Maradona and Eva Perón. And I was not talking about "your" national heroes, but simply of "National heroes". Deny that the national heroes of Argentina are those 3 idiots, one more lie won't matter.

That was our national industry, then we ended up buying US people. You guys are the most egocentric kind there is xD, and you know it. Im generalizing again.

Who do you talk when you say "You guys"? of Spain? Curious, I have heard many adjectives refering to us, must of them approppiate, but "egocentric" is new. Explain your reply and tell when we have been historically egocentric. I preciselly think that one of the big problems of my nation have been the complexes. You use egocentrism as an isult, but IMO it' s not something to be totally cursed. The lack of it can be so hamful as the excess. Argentina is a clear example of country that wants to pee higher than it can, actually...

And, to end... I am glad to amuse people with my EnglishÃ,  I don' t do it on purpose, and I hope everything can be understandable (sometimes I go back and read older posts by me, and I can't understand what they said...Ã,  ) but you can understand them, mistakes and typos don't really concern me.

But sorry... I can't shut up and swallow if I see something I don' t like. I preffer to sound ridiculous and say my opinion than look smart and don' t tell it. Hope everybody understands me.

I' ll try to improve, though.Ã, 

Error!!! My English are allways bad, no matter if I are angered or no. The problem is that when me are angered not, people does not pey atenttion to what I write.

EDIT: Idlu, I don't think you generalised... I was focused in Ikari' s posts.

Actually, I think that those dolls are being sold pretty well, so, even throwing stones to my own speech... I must recognise that, no... That dolls are not just the idea of a sick guy.

That shows that in the USA there are a lot of idiots.

But even if there is a million of sold dolls... There would be only 0.3% of idiots in the US... So, saying "In America, there is a toy for idiots who is being sold pretty well, ergo, all the Americans are fucked up" is silly. You never said that... but someone said.

Idlu, Maniac:

Indeed it' s weird, and sickening, probably... But an idiot making that toys, and millions of idiots buying a toy (which in a big country as the USA might still be less than 1% of the total population) does not make a country "to be fucked up".

It would if it was an unique caracteristic of the US citizens, it the US was the only country in the world with such items and such humour... But I' ve seen something simillar in Spain and some other countries of Europe.

I just don' t write that down in my notebook as a "point to say when an anti-(put the name of a country here)" debate starts. Ikari does... He, who has been the spokesman of the "Americans think EVERYBODY in the rest of the world is inferior" is the one who is now treating all the americans as if they were so dumb is its stupid president. I refuse.

Ok... I had enough.

Making fun of an important fact, no matter how serious it is, is the most normal thing on Earth. If you say that the Us citizens are "fucked up" for that,then, YOU are seriosly fucked up.

Excuse me, but you are the typical sponge that swallows every information smelling "anti-yankee" for using it as a weapon in your next manifestos, but your sectarian and biased mind simply ignore simillar (but non-related to the USA) examples.

Start to be coherent. Everybody makes poo. Every shit smell bad. Do you want to discuss if the American shit smells worse? Ok, I' ll gladly discuss that... I' ll probably agree.

Do you want to make me believe that only the American shit smells bad? Sorry... I won't discuss that.

Example about naughty jokes: We had a terrorist strike here 15 years ago. One of the victims was a girl who lost their legs. She became an important activist against of the victims of terrorism here, and she is generally admired. But we have a joke... "Which are the resemblances between E.T. and Irene Villa (this girl)? Both fit in the bike basket" Ok, the joke is terrible, and its totally politically uncorrect if said in "official" forums, but its a joke that is in the street and generally provoques fun. People like black humour and  "secretelly" enjoys that.

"What does Tower A of the WTC says to Tower B? I wait for you downstreet!" Again, a terrible joke, but the joke it's  there, in the streets, and made people laugh... and if you believe that any country where this jokes has been told is "fucked up", then, you have a real problem with your sociologist axiomas.

Allow me to make clear that those jokes are spanish, and, well, while you can consider us a "fucked up" country as well, we are not (nowadays, at least) this capitalist-colonialist-belicistic entity you say the US is... ergo, "black jokes" are not linked with "being an evil-capitalistic entity", ergo, you are wrong, ergo, shut up.

Also... There are no "fucked up" jokes in your country? Reply yes and your previous statement (USA has black jokes=USA is fucked up) would reveal as hypocrital, so, shut up.

Reply "no", and you' ll reveal to be a liar, so, shut up.

I don' t see any problem with someone painting a beard to a GIJOE, attack a rope, and make money bout it... Specially I don' t see it as something so BIG for declaring a country as "Fucked up"

I don' t know if you realise that you are revealing to be as short-sighted and radical as the most short-sighted and radical north american jerk.... just that your color is the opposite.

People here has been constantly saying you "Yes... there are jerks in the USA. Yes... our president is one of those... but we are not a country of jerks" and you go on, and on, with posts which spirit basically is "You are all jerks". You should apology, my friend.

Which country has managed better than the US when they were in the simillar mighty world ruling position? Caesar's Rome? Alexander' s Mecedonia? Lionheart's  England? Napoleon' s France?

Bocanegra's Spain?

I can' t really put any examples about Argentina, because you never rules the world, but well... If you go on constantly tying the personality of the citizens with the personality of the rulers, you are not in a good position either. Anyone which access to wikipedia will see that your presidents are not samplers of intelligence and good management. Equivalently yours are even more militaristic.

For the God's shake... your national heroes are a terrorist, a drug addict and a prostitute.

Well... you know the joke, no? The best deal in the world is buying an Argentinian for the price he costs, and selling it for the price HE SAYS he costs.

If you want it that way, yes. Especially if they result in dead US military outside of their war zone.

Idiot.

So... copter accidents amuse you?

U.S. is not targeting civilians. Every person with a grame of brain will know that the orders from above are to avoid collateral damages as much as possible. Every civilian casualty is a casualty in the scoreboard of the insurgency.

If you are saying that the US militars are adding goals in the scoreboard of the terrorists on purpose, there' s no need to go on with the discussion because you would be showing that you are too sectarian for learning anything sensible with this...

Iraq is going bad, terribly bad. But Iraq has been a mistake, not an ethnic or political purge, as you want to make it seem.

What Videla did was. And Videla was not born in Texas...

So, your next step is probably going to post something with a lot or rage saying that someone of your family was killed by Videla, blah, blah, blah... and saying that I can't deffend the USA mentioning Videla because Argentina is not equal to Videla, blah, blah, blah...

That, exactly that, is what Darth Mandarb is saying about Bush... But you don' t listen because you go on with the manifesto. So, listen, and reply according to the thing people tells you.

I think my point is still "valid"... when someone "good" dies, allways someone finds a "but..."

My "feelings" (and feelings can be wrong), is that this "buts", in this case, are smaller, and I can' t understand it.

Look, I am going to put an example: Yestersay 31 of dec., 0900 in the morning, a close friend of mine is driving drunk and sees a police alcohol and drug control. He escapes and he kills himself and two girls. Today is the burial ceremony... And I am thinking where to go. To my friend' s ceremony, or to the two girls one. He died as a stupid irresponsible jerk, and I am not really sure if he deserves the homage the ceremony will be. He was a good pal, but the final spot spoils all the record.

So... If my feelings about a FRIEND who killed 3 people by irresponsability are these, imagine my scruples about a bastard who gassed towns.

It' s amazing for me that when someone "good" dies, there' s allway someone here which comes with something like "A condolence thread? Why? Because he was popular? The cousin of my neighbour Mr. Emily died two weeks ago and no one seems to care about that!" and now, some of those people seem to be so "sad" about the dead of such son of a bitch.

What I know of his is that he was stupid enought to suicide by cocaine and heroin use... That makes him loss a lot of the (not many) points he had. Of course personal aspects of the comedian won' t make me laugh less if the jokes are good, but, for me, he is totally out of the "best comedian ever" race for that.

And what's all the talk about the US having chosen the time of Saddam's execution on a less news-flashy time of the year?

I don' t know if the people saying that are ignorants or ill-disposed liars. Saddam was executed when he was executed because Islam' s law does not allow executions during the holy party period... A law that Saddam followed diligently, being the period with most executions in the year.

I have been close a lot of times to open a thread about that, guys... For me the tonge emoticon is very, very irritating... For me it is like showing disgust, or that the opinions of someone make you sick... a really serious insult in such open minded forums.

But I know that some people sees on it the "slightly embarassed and therefore smiling with a tonge" pose we' ve seen a zillion time in manga characters.

If someone feels the same than me, I think we should open a little contest to design two different emoticons for that.

Your use of the tonge emoticon is an unbeatable dialectical tactic. I surrender. You win.

Well... I said "Sorry for not knowing the non-western cultures".

"The West" is the name commonly given to some countries of Europe and some counties of America... This "line" dividing "west" and "east" is "unnoficially" placed at the east of Poland, Eslovaqia, Hugary, Jugoslavia and Greece, being Belarus, Ukraïna, Bulgaria, Rumania, etc, considered as "the East countries", without any kind of pejorative sense.

Turkey is even more to the "East", bro, so, unless I became nuts and where I read "non-western cultures" says "Europe", I mustn't be polite or apology for anything...

And the last news I had is that Turkey is being redouced their aspiration to (politically) become Europe. And I said "politically" because, "geographically", Turkey is (And will forever be, unless you start to move huge amounts of earth) 99% placed in Asia.

So... welcome to the forum, and accept an advise... Be less deffensive and enjoy... or your stay here will be unpleasent. (Not a threat, of course... as said, an advise from a friend)