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Mmmm... Something said to me that a lot of people would receive this as bad news...  

Out of contest... too "cut and pasted"...  

Pliz, show us the result! I think that result will be great, that´s why I didn´t C+C the sprites...

P.S. Yes, It´s scary.

Between the earthquakes and the hurricanes you have tornados.

Yes... I thougt it was a topic! I remember that when I was a kid I really wanted to live in the USA... In California. Then, there wasa big earthquake, it maybe was in 1986. Then I decided to move to Florida, and there were Hurricanes.

Then... Tornados in the middle.

When I was almost decided to settle my spiritual home in New York, I saw a National Geographic program where a cockroaches infestation in a New York´s neighborhood was shown... And I really have phobia to that bugs  

No problem... If you really want to thank me, re-draw a less scary avatar.  

Eeeer... You´re talking, Mr. Jeckyll, mainly of the weather, not the winter. I can´t really talk of severe winters because I live in the banks of the Mediterranean.

I see snow, because there are some mountains reaching 1,500 meters in the vicinity, and it is difficult for the cyclists to go and train, but I do, and I like it because, no matter how long I go, all the cyclists I see are friends (We are 10 or 15 in winter, whereas in Summer there are thousands of us in the roads...), and it´s funny, but the temperatures never reach less than 10 º centigrades in my town.

So, a really white Christmas could sound exciting for me, but I can´t really talk of it...

Yeah...

Here is my entry! If you think it´s too nasty, have in mind that my first thought was to include Michael jackson in it!  

The Pallete that Lucasarts used for its characters in Monkey Island 1 and 2...

Yes, but whereas you are in a plural University where you can see all the point of views, here in my country it is very "fashioned" to support the Palestinians arguments without having a plural, propper discussion of the facts.

That´s why I´m so deffensive when I see someone who says "Palestinians fight for their right", because in my country that usually means that the guy what actually thinks: "I´d like that all these guys blast all the fucked jews!!"

That´s why your repeatedly references about that you don´t share the bombing stuff haven´t been (in a quite inconscience way) ignored by me.  

Tha´t´s the problem... If a nice fair comes to you and says, "Hey! Do you want me to create a big/calid/paradisiac island in the middle of Mediterranean were Jews can life in peace?" you´ll probably say: "of course, that would be nice!"

I´d agree too... but the people I´m used to discuss would like to see all the jews in the middle of the Mediterranean... without the Island  

Well... so... you´ve been transfered from e-boards... eeer... look! A three headed monkey!

I confess my ignorance about one very subject: What´s your avatar??? a ghost?

Ok, thanks Yaksplit for reminding me the reasons I never discuss this.

Would you accept my appologies Mr. Shbazjinkens?

* Lance Farlandstrong offers hand shaking

Thanks Yaksplit, and Mr.Shbazjenkins, I don´t know if you are ( : : ::)CENSORED BY THE CHRISTMAS´ FRIENDSHIP FEELING : : :) ... Where in the "in many times this discussion finish in a "Ok! I hate jews, fuck them!!!11!" sentence do you see a reference to you?

I was talking to my friend Yaksplit, a mature member who I´ve exchanged nice messages and discussions with, and not to a n00b whose first posts told nothing interesting to me, Mr. "the funnier resignation letter ever, ha ha!"

And yes, I am an ignorant, and you are a Teacher of modern History in the Smithsonian Uiversity      

Thanks for trying to re-direction the discussion, it really needs so.

Well, your argument is that Palestinians fight for their land and their freedom (thanks for making clear that you don´t like terrorrism because in many times this discussion finish in a "Ok! I hate jews, fuck them!!!11!")

But my point is: The Palestinians deserve it in the sense that they wanted to kill all the Jewish in a first moment. The palestinian who wanted peace, now has peace (30 % of Isrealians who are Muslims is my example)

Israel was flooded during the first part of the 21th century with milions of Jews, argentinian, turks, russian... There was no problem when the brittons were there. Your arguments are based of the believe that when the British left was very unfair by their part to give the land to the Jews, a land that belonged to the Palestinians. But Palestinians left it voluntary, because they didn´t want to share their lands with a devastated culture like the Jews were. Israel was originally conceived as a land were Jews and Arabs could life in peace, but the arabs pissed it all off attacking with 5 armies the day later the state of Israel was created. I wish to discuss that, because if I still reading something like "blasting 30 jewish student in a Bus is just" I´m goint to sick.

Edit: and yeah! I agree with the 2 points: 1)terrorism is bad, terrorist are stupid, never "romantic fighters", 2)Killing civilians is sick (And soldiers too, )

Shit... this thread has made me realise that I just visit agsforums.com...  

Shbazjinkens: I see so different points of view between you and me that going on would only take us to a bitter confrontation that I don´t want.

These differences are: You say that the land belong to the Palestinians... It never has, as it belonged to brits.

You say that Palestinian leaved his land because they thought that they could never reached the same citizen state as the Jewish. I am saying that the Palestinians who remained have the same state in front of the law.

The "sea of blood" stuff is not Bush´ propaganda, it was a quote said in 1949 by arab warriors, which means that was said 50 years before the Bush election...

Anyway, I see your points, and I see your analogies, but I don´t share them, so, going with this is futile because I don´t want to make a quick reply and write something that I don´t really think.

So, thanks for sharing your oppinions with me, but I´m tired of this, all the points are the same since 5 or 6 posts, so, I give in.

Palestinians might not be able to fight with honourable methods, but unlike Israelis, their cause is just.

Yes, terminating with the Jewish race is very just Makri  

And that´s what the terrorist are pursuing.

And YES! the matter that the palestinians left their homes in 1949 expecting to return after the Jewish massacre does care, because shows that the "good boys palestinian little angels" wanted the Jewish killed before the occupation.

It also shows that the Jewish intentions at the beggining were good, while today, the constant attack by their neighbourn countries, has turned it into a very agressive ones. The ARABS STARTED.

Shbazjenkins:

"And Palestinians have the right to oppose the decision of the foreign country attempting to give away their lands.. I don't think we call New York a colony here in the US anymore you know" <---That´s what I call supporting the terrorism. But we can carry on with that argument: "Nazis had the right to attack Poland, because there was Danzig, and Prusia and bla bla bla..."


"If Mexicans became so oppressed that a majority of the people from there migrated to the US outnumbering us 7-3 and took over our government, but offered me "full rights" I think I'd still be opposed. Put yourself in their shoes. You're thinking inside the box of the people who did this to them."
No! I told that they had the possibility to remain in their lands in 1949, before all the oppresion and all the stuff... And as an example, I put that 30% of muslims Israelian population. As an example that living between Jew and muslims is possible (except for those Palestinians who left their countries expecting that foreign countries kill the Jewish)

And I can´t really response to many of the other points, because I don´t really understand you... I say to you that the Jordans are the country that more Palestinians have killed and you say that that has something to see with an independence fight?

Let me explain it to you in a short dialogue, ok?

Jordans- Hey! Palestinians, mateys, come to my country, I m going to kill the Jewish!

Palestinians: Ok!

(the war is a failure and the Palestinians can´t come back, and they remain in Jordania)

The palestinians say: Hey Jordania... what do we do now? eeehh! Arghhhhh!

Palestinian dead by a Jordan who didn´t want to keep him in his country


Do you understand it now?

Also, how can you claim that Palestinians are not fighting for independence when the hegemony of the country shifts from Palestinian ownership to zionist Jewish ownership?

Yes... I shared that oppinion since someone told me years before "Notice that Yihad allways strike when a peace plan is close to be signed"

And it´s true... as better the peace conversations go, bloodier the strikes are.

That friend, a Jewish Turkey mate, made me investigate the foundational documents of Jihad, Al-Aksa, Hamás... All of them say that their final aim is to destroy the Isreaelian State.

That made me change my mind...

SSH: "we"?

You´re scottish... Gibraltar own to the damn Engl154!!11!  

And, yeah... you can keep the rock! It stinks!