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Sure! I would accept that in a sportive manner... but one question: When will I be able to tell you "I told you so"? If there is no war in a month? in a year? In a decade? 50 years?

Just hear to the soldier members we have here... War with Russia is a no no. And for Russia war with EUA is a no no again...

The pipeline links have been intelligently avioding Georgia lately, and now oil going from the Caucasus to Belgium dosn' t need to pass through Georgia anymore. The reservoirs of gas and oil are not really that relevant.

This war is because Putin wants Russia to be in the newspapers again, and he doesn' t really know how to get it.

Well... Georgia it' s not Europe. They participate in our crappy song contests, along with Turkey, Israel, and Cyprus, but nothing else...

hahaha! I guess that M0ds' question because I said "Quintaros and Darren...". Quintaros is Darren' s nickname.... I meant "Disco and Quintaros..." or "Kenneth and Darren"

Ahhh! If we' ve spent 5% of the time we used for attacking Bush attacking Putin instead... ^_^

I' ve talked to Jeremy via msn, and apparently the credit card problem will be solved easily.

Plans for the people in Paris:

Quintaros and Darren will be the first ones to be there... They will be at Perfect Hostel Montmartre.
Lore and Nacho will arrive to Beavois airport at 20:30... Will probably arrive to Perfect Hostel Montmartre around midnight.
The morning of the 14th we will meet Disc and Quint at the breakfast... We will go to walking to pick up Chrille to make a bit of Tourism. He will wait for us at the Gare du Nord Suede Hotel lounge at... what time, Chrille? 10:30?
Darth Mandarb will arrive at 12:47. We expect him to arrive to the Gare du Nord Suede Hotel Lounge at 1337. Then we will go to the catacombs.

Next day, we move to the airport, and pick the others at 11:00. All correct? I would love if you (Jess, Ivy, Eric...) send me info about your flights... Company, estimated arrival time, etc... And we go to MITTENS!

And that' s all!

Paranoia or not I still think the US is Jonesing for a skirmish with the Russians...

Well, maybe no paranoid. Let' s leave it in "totally uncorrect".

Hey man, don' t agree with me so deeply, I have a reputation!

I mentioned Palestine as an example of "when do we draw the line". I didn' t want to start a debate about that... 

(Anyway, as you said, RickJ, even if the legitimate owners were the Britts (you specifically said "were") now they must be the Israelians, since the Britts gave it to the Israelians...)

But as you will see in a few posts, somebody won' t agree with me (us). It works perfectly for explaining my point, which is that these issues... are complicate.

The problem is where you draw the line... For example, Israel belonged to the cananeans, hebrews, philistines, romans, egyptians, assirians, babilonians, brits... Where do you put the line in the storyline and say "HERE! The populators in THIS period are the legitime owners"

It's difficult.

It' s difficult... maybe there is no a "correct answer".

Let' s talk about "A" country and "B" region.

If "B region" wants to sepparate, 99% of the times "A" region wouldn' t be happy. "A" region won' t allow "B" to sepparate if "B" uses just political paths. That can be unfair.
If "B" remains in "A", "A" would be happy, but "B" unhappy.
If "B" region wants to sepparate, "A" won' t allow per se. If "B" uses weapons, "B" goofes, even if "B" cause is fair. "B" becomes unfair... but some other people consider that what "B" does is a just cause.
If "A" uses weapons to keep "B" with them, even if "A" cause is fair, "A" goofes. But again, some other people might consider "A" is acting propperly.
If "B" region has a majority of "B" populators, there might still be "A" populators that wouldn't be happy if "B" becomes independent.
Which cause is fair if, in "B" country they was an original "A" population that has changed to a "B" majority?

As you can see, a lot of questions to reply, and they are not easy... I just hope it ends ASAP.

I would also like all those people (*) who protested for the war against Iraq protest now as strong as they did, but asking that people to be consequent might be too much.

(*) (And by "that people" I don't mean you, honest, pacifist and well intentioned forum member, but those who used the war of Iraq with political intentions, without giving actually a fuck about the iraqi population)

That post is flawless, Toumas... except if you honestly think that we made a mistake with Kossovo... (Which is something I consider... Just to make it clear: It was ok to go there and make the humanitarian effort, but I am not so sure about if the political stuff was so good)

Sorry, I understood that you were putting the USA in the discussion because you were paranoid or something.

Now I see the truth! You are not paranoid... It is just that you are confussion, GEORGIA, capital TBLISI with GEORGIA, capital Atlanta! 

I was quite sure that SOUTH OSETIA wanting to sepparate from GEORGIA to join RUSSIA was going to end into bashing the United States...

Bufffff, seems like the perfect place for making a great soccer match. My vote goes for an "America" vs. "Europe" one...

I think everyone belonging to the Ocean' s eleven deserves a homage...  R.I.P. Mr. Mac.

Unfortunatelly, two more gentlemen will follow Bernie soon, Paul Newman and, less known for the Americans but very well known for the European football fans, Sir. Bobby Robson.

What can we discuss about this? I don' t know the politics involving those events and I don't really care. I only hope it ends ASAP with the fewer casualties as possible.

Voulez-vouz couchez avec moi?

Do you want to get the coach with me?, I pressume.  I guess that' s what we have to ask when we are at the bus stops, no?

We' ve won a gold medal! And guess what... cycling! Giro, Tour, Olympics... Let' s see what happens in the Vuelta and the World Championship Cycling is my favourite sport, and we' re managing quite well, this year! Olympics are basically over for me untill the 18th and 19th, when Gomez is going to win the gold in triathlon and my friends Sven Riederer, Olivier Marceau, Magali DiMarco and Daniela Ryf can get a metal. Hope to get a place to see the race with Darren AKA Quintaros in Mittens.

I agree... The ceremony, per se, has been magnificent. All the rest is another discussion which doesn't below to this thread.