AGS Game Ratings Drive

AGA · Thu 04/04/2013 19:21:25

Quote from: tzachs on Thu 04/04/2013 18:56:10
Quote from: AGA on Thu 04/04/2013 10:28:48
Rating, and pasting your review into the comments field, would be helpful. A lot more people are likely to see your opinions if they're on the main site than if they're hidden away on the forums!

Crazy feature suggestion: Maybe there's a way to integrate the game's comments with the completed game forum thread comments?
One way, for example, would be not to allow creating new threads in the "Completed Games", and automatically create a thread for each new game entered to the database.
And then allow adding comments (and rating) from both the forums and the game page and synchronise between them.
If this could be done, it would be super cool...

No, quite simply. SMF is not easy to use, and that is really not something that could be pulled off with anything less than crazy amount of effort. Sorry!

Even excluding that, what happens if someone has already posted a release thread, then posts adds their game to the database? What I thought I would add was a link to the AGiP, CGA and Hints threads for each game, if the game's author wanted to add them.

Tabata · Thu 04/04/2013 19:32:35

Quote from: AGA on Thu 04/04/2013 19:21:25
What I thought I would add was a link to the AGiP, CGA and Hints threads for each game, if the game's author wanted to add them.

did nobody read, what I wrote?

Quote from: Tabata on Thu 04/04/2013 12:29:35
I always wondered why there is no link to the forums CGA-Thread.
Right underneath where the link to the website shows up (if avaliable) whould be a nice place for it.

Ponch · Thu 04/04/2013 19:38:57

I have an idea. Why don't we have a link on the game's page to the relevant forum threads? Why has no once suggested this until now? Clearly, I am a genius!

Sorry, Tabby.

AGA · Thu 04/04/2013 19:39:32

Quote from: Tabata on Thu 04/04/2013 19:32:35
Quote from: AGA on Thu 04/04/2013 19:21:25
What I thought I would add was a link to the AGiP, CGA and Hints threads for each game, if the game's author wanted to add them.
did nobody read, what I wrote?

Quote from: Tabata on Thu 04/04/2013 12:29:35
I always wondered why there is no link to the forums CGA-Thread.
Right underneath where the link to the website shows up (if avaliable) whould be a nice place for it.

Yes, I read what you wrote, and expanded on it! Tripled it!!

Tramponline · Thu 04/04/2013 19:47:50

Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 03/04/2013 16:20:42
Quote from: Eric on Wed 03/04/2013 15:54:55
I may be a bit crazy. I've just left a comment, but don't see a place to rate the games (only the AGS panel rating).
On the game page, just beneath the list of details (to the right of the screenshot) is a little box marked 'public opinion'. There may or may not already be some stats in the box, it depends if enough people have rated it.

Same here, man! I was actually too embarrassed to bring that up. (Since the "new"

snazzy game's page design) Every time I wanted to (quickly!) rate a game after finishing, it went something like this:

Look at game's page:
...see AGS rating (or not yet) - don't vote here - OK!
...read Player Rating Website: not enough votes yet - OK! - but I want to vote - follow link - mostly 404 error (and yes, I do realised it's two sperate categories - NOW!

)
...read 'Public Opinion' box, but only up to the 'not enough votes' part - ...BUT I WANT TO VOTE AND CHANGE THAT!!! = vicious circle
(I swear I miss that 'your vote?'-link EVERY single time! - and yep, I'm an idiot!

)

Still, my point is, people not using our forums frequently (and me!) might very easily miss the vote option. Is there any way to implement a 'quick vote' bar for numbskulls like me? When logged in, you could choose the amount of blue cups on mouse-over (Similar to the faded out/solid 'AGS Panel Rating' bar). We are (still) 'point and clickers' after all.

edit: ...to clarify: not only for thick dudes like me, but to ENCOURAGE voting, primarily!
edit2: This is only an 'issue' if a particular game hasn't received enough votes yet! See 'Public Opinion' box text.

AGA · Thu 04/04/2013 20:02:44

Quote from: Tramponline on Thu 04/04/2013 19:47:50
Quote from: Stupot+ on Wed 03/04/2013 16:20:42
Quote from: Eric on Wed 03/04/2013 15:54:55
I may be a bit crazy. I've just left a comment, but don't see a place to rate the games (only the AGS panel rating).
On the game page, just beneath the list of details (to the right of the screenshot) is a little box marked 'public opinion'. There may or may not already be some stats in the box, it depends if enough people have rated it.

Same here, man! I was actually too embarrassed to bring that up. (Since the "new" snazzy game's page design) Every time I wanted to (quickly!) rate a game after finishing, it went something like this:

Look at game's page:
...see AGS rating (or not yet) - don't vote here - OK!
...read Player Rating Website: not enough votes yet - OK! - but I want to vote - follow link - mostly 404 error (and yes, I do realised it's two sperate categories - NOW! )
...read 'Public Opinion' box, but only up to the 'not enough votes' part - ...BUT I WANT TO VOTE AND CHANGE THAT!!! = vicious circle
(I swear I miss that 'your vote?'-link EVERY single time! - and yep, I'm an idiot! )

Still, my point is, people not using our forums frequently (and me!) might very easily miss the vote option. Is there any way to implement a 'quick vote' bar for numbskulls like me? When logged in, you could choose the amount of blue cups on mouse-over (Similar to the faded out/solid 'AGS Panel Rating' bar). We are (still) 'point and clickers' after all.

edit: ...to clarify: not only for thick dudes like me, but to ENCOURAGE voting, primarily!

I have reworded the voting bit to be far more obvious. I have vaguely considered adding some sort of context based AJAX thingamabob that lets users do certain things, but don't hold your breath.

Tabata · Thu 04/04/2013 20:44:07

Boys, it seems I really need to make some home visits

~ next on my list: AGA and Ponch

... keep on the good work - both of you <3

AGA · Thu 04/04/2013 20:48:34

Quote from: Tabata on Thu 04/04/2013 20:44:07
Boys, it seems I really need to make some home visits
~ next on my list: AGA and Ponch

... keep on the good work - both of you <3

I live with my girlfriend, she'll protect me!

Quote from: cat on Thu 04/04/2013 11:28:02
By the way, now that you are in a list creation spree: The recent comments only shows the last 5 entries, would it be possible to get a list with more than that? I'd like to read the most recent reviews people made because of this thread and I wouldn't know how to find them.

http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/recentcomments/

cat · Thu 04/04/2013 20:52:12

Awesome, thanks AGA

LimpingFish · Thu 04/04/2013 22:29:00

Quote from: cat on Thu 04/04/2013 20:52:12
Awesome, thanks AGA

Seconded!

AGA · Thu 04/04/2013 22:57:39

Okay, the database will now show a game's GIP, CGA and Hints threads, if you edit the page to contain the thread ID. There's no sane way of automating this though, so games' owners, or members of staff, will have to update it for each game.

AGA · Fri 05/04/2013 10:00:00

Quote from: AGA on Thu 04/04/2013 22:57:39
Okay, the database will now show a game's GIP, CGA and Hints threads, if you edit the page to contain the thread ID. There's no sane way of automating this though, so games' owners, or members of staff, will have to update it for each game.

Resonance is a good example of this, as I could easily find each of those threads.

AGA · Fri 05/04/2013 12:10:57

I'm on a roll now: http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/site/games/yourcomments/. I've also added links to these pages in the games pages' navbars, so people who haven't read this thread will know they exist.

cat · Fri 05/04/2013 12:16:44

Hm, this list is empty for me...

bush_monkey · Fri 05/04/2013 12:19:43

This is a great idea. I just need to remember which games I've played lately...

CaptainD · Fri 05/04/2013 12:33:57

Quote from: cat on Fri 05/04/2013 12:16:44
Hm, this list is empty for me...

Try refreshing - sometimes it's worked for me, sometimes not.

AGA · Fri 05/04/2013 12:35:15

Quote from: cat on Fri 05/04/2013 12:16:44
Hm, this list is empty for me...

That's because I forgot about the old comments. Comments used to be stored by name, rather than user ID, which meant that any comments made before the new site went live in January weren't being picked up. They should be now though?

Quote from: CaptainD on Fri 05/04/2013 12:33:57
Quote from: cat on Fri 05/04/2013 12:16:44
Hm, this list is empty for me...

Try refreshing - sometimes it's worked for me, sometimes not.

That's because I've been fiddling with it over the last half an hour or so, so sometimes it was using test data, sometimes not. I should really set up a test environment to avoid these kinda of issues, but I like to live dangerously.

Stupot · Fri 05/04/2013 14:34:42

Nice lists AGA, thanks

SSH · Fri 05/04/2013 16:49:53

In terms of automating it, could the thread author put something like [DBID=1234] in the thread title to get it automatically linked to the games DB?

AGA · Fri 05/04/2013 16:59:59

Well theoretically. Given the game's author is going to have to go to the games page to look up their game's ID, then tab back to the forums and type that ID into the topic, it doesn't seem like much effort saved versus going to the game's page, clicking 'edit' and pasting the topic ID there. Sounds like exactly as many clicks made, and effort expended, either way really!