Church of Satan

[makri]

I think other religions 'lifted' stuff from Christianity. If you compare even just the 'creation story' from each religion, you'll see that most other religion's 'legends' are very similar to the Adam and Eve tale.

Most religions have somewhat similar creation story, but since Christianity certainly isn't the oldest religion in the world, it means that they have been influenced by already existing stories, not the other way around.

[Tuomas]

Funny thing, I just wrote a 5 page essay on that last tuesday for my entrance examination. But since I just did it, I won't do it again.

I have no interest in satan, or god or what so ever that makes people do stupid things, and I'd rather ignore the whole thing, but I feel like I'm really not allowed to do that. I'd rather smoke joint or two most occasionally than join a cult or a religion (again). I'm not into magical and mysterious things that happen to people that have died a long ago and who I don't know. Since nothing really happened to me that would change my wiev, I'd rather not.

[ALPHATT]

There are two kind of satanists
1.The one who eats human brain,rape girls,make sacrifices and draw pentagrams
all over his place
2.I dunno bout them but they must be a bit more normal then the 1st kind

Anyway.....

SOUTH PARK RULEZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vertigoaddict]

And Islam borrows heavily from Judaism.

In islam there were 4 books. Injil, taurat, etc (I don't really listen to my teacher) and three of the books were tampered with through the years (doesn't Injil sound like ANGEL to you?) and the Al-quran was the only book left that was not tampered with. the religion yahudi (Jewish) was believed to have been a religion made by people who mixed all four together. As much as I hate my supposed religion, I just couldn't help myself.


Steel Drummer I'm not saying that you are wrong or that you are right. I don't really believe in religion (well, I kinda do, but in my own way).


Y'know what it's my parent's fault I feel like I have to be defensive...


Well what I think is that all religions (that are not modern) are stories written in different points of view. It's all just one story told differently, Like come on! these books, tomes, stones, whatever, they were made, written like years ago! And were supposed to have faith? faith, to believe in something and not question it? like come on! For all we know all this talk about prophets and jesus and stuff could just be the 'politics' of that time. know what I mean?


AND GOD! I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THIS QUOTING THING! I QUOTED MY OWN MESSAGE! >_<;

[LimpingFish]

It's funny how I can count the number of intelligent comments using only numbers below zero.

I think that's a new record.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

Fish, does that mean there are no intelligent comments on this thread?

Alliance, of course Christianity (or shall we say, Catholicism) pushes their beliefs. Want to go back as far as colonization times? It's simply part of our culture, now. Even when you say harmless things like "Oh God", or "Jesus wept", or "To hell with it!", or even "Hail-mary-fulla-grace-let-me-win-this-stock-car-race"... you may or may not be a believer, but you have been brought up in a Christian environment. Of course it shows.

[Hammerite]

creation of the world doesn't concern me.
if it was created by someone, then "well done to that person!" and if not, then whatever.

[Harvester]

Heh, after seeing The 'Burbs (loooong, looong time ago), every time someone mentions Satan I can't help remembering that hilarious satanistic chant:

"I want to kill everyone,
Satan is good, Satan is our pal!"

[Steel Drummer]

Steel Drummer, I can see where you're going with this, but I have to disagree.
Everyone's entitled to their own beliefs, yes?
Therefore, I can believe in Satan as my deity (seeing as I believe in the Joy of Satan stuff, which does exactly that, rather than LeVaye's theories)
Yes, I can try it for a month. The thing is, it's my life, my body. If I want to try something new, why not? You only get to live once, and maybe, just maybe, you'll pick a path that's right for you.
Also, it kind of makes me a little sick that Christians push their religious beliefs on everyone else. I used to do that all the time without realizing it, but Satanism has opened my eyes a little bit to that. It's really annoying.

It's funny how you're converting from Christianity to Satanism- most ex-christians convert to Buddhism or Islam or something, but you've converted to exactly the opposite of Christianity.

[ALPHATT]

Well I think all relegious people is a scared little bunny!!!!
They feard from death so much that they can't live without thinking he/she gonna
live for eternity in another world.

[Harvester]

Oh, you really hit the nail on the head...

[Hammerite]

Well I think all relegious people is a scared little bunny!!!!
They feard from death so much that they can't live without thinking he/she gonna
live for eternity in another world.

very respectful to people's beliefs, aren't we?  :

[deadsuperhero]

Indeed. No offense to Wtcq, but I find his posts rather offensive...

[Tuomas]

I don't because it's his opinion, and I actually agree. But I won't say it out loud.

[vertigoaddict]

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/dark-age.htm

[space boy]

I don't because it's his opinion, and I actually agree. But I won't say it out loud.

I also agree and I will say it out loud. Other peoples beliefs do not automatically deserve respect.

[SpacePirateCaine]

Well, let's see if we can't defuse that particular bomb by rephrasing that a bit, shall we?

In the broadest sense of the world, I have an opinion that agrees with Wtcq on one or two points, though I would definitely be forced to say it in a much different way. I have nothing against religious people - one of my best friends from high school, for example, is a Jehovah's Witness, and a particularly devout one for that matter. It was a great and very close friendship, because even with his religion's apparent policy, he doesn't follow the cultist attitude of disassociating with the heretics, like myself. We have discussed religion at length, and I seem to have convinced him well enough that I'm a lost cause, which is exactly where I like to be. Evangelism is annoying to people that want to be left alone.

I have a lot of respect for people who don't base their lives on or around religion, but still have a strong moral code, of sorts. When someone has no belief in divine retribution keeping them from doing whatever they damned-well please, and yet decide to be a benefit to society as a form of social pragmatism, I find that somewhat commendable. I, myself, tend to look out for number one in the grander scheme of things, but more often than not it includes - even precludes - acts of 'selflessness', and general benefits to the world around me. By that same token, I have the utmost respect for religious people who put little stock in the afterlife, or don't let that or 'God's will' sway their decisions, but base what they do on a moral background.

It's all essentially based around peoples' motivations for doing what they do, I think. If someone does live only for the afterlife, I would describe that lifetime as a bit of a pity, and even (at risk of being insensitive) wasted. I can't agree, though, with the generalization that religious people are only interested in the afterlife - take Jehova's witnesses (Being one of the few religions I think I know a little bit about): When I, in an attempt to antagonize him, gave him a logical run-down of his chances of getting into heaven, based off of the 144,000/resurrection principle of his own religion, he said "It doesn't matter to me if I am one of the few, as long as I do my part while I'm alive", or something to that effect. I respect that.

Now, I also believe that most religions are needlessly hostile an unaccepting of one another, considering how alike they actually are. I can understand, so to speak, the tension between Christians and the Romans during their Empire's reign from a purely religiously-based standpoint - the Romans believed that in their Polytheistic world, the active denouncement of polytheism by the Christians was a threat to the Empire, as it would cause the gods to become angered - which I believe was also more justified in a world where thunder and lightning were acts of Jupiter, as opposed to charge separation. The risk of the ire of Jupiter was a large cause of concern, I would imagine. I don't think this necessitated mass slaughter and the use of 'unarmed christian vs. tiger' as a form of entertainment, but there was a form of justification, which I don't think exists as much between many of the monotheistic religions. As many have said before, religion has been the reason behind no small number of atrocious acts in the past, yet another reason I'm not a big fan.

So my philosophy is, read it if you like, but I don't subscribe to that particular magazine. I don't even like the genre.

Now, so that I'm not completely off topic, I think that some of the principles of satanism, as described are sound - it's a distorted form of monotheistic/christian faith, but it teaches people to be self-reliant, and not to look to miracles to get things accomplished. This seems to me to be a very reasonable, and realist concept. Enjoy your life while you can. Whatever the ultimate result is, I suppose if someone thinks their life is justified, it's a good thing, isn't it?

[Hammerite]

I think some people who simply believe something don't deserve to be insulted because of it. I personally couldn't care less, but I'm not going to force everyone else to think that way.

[deadsuperhero]

Good answer, SpacePirateCaine! 

It just bugs me that people put each other down for what they believe in. I think that your beliefs are the core of who YOU are, and if someone's going to put you down for that without making the effort of ever knowing you, that's a pretty low thing to do.

[SpacePirateCaine]

Thanks, Alliance. I'm sure I could've said it in a much more concise manner, but I guess I often let the opportunity to be wordy take hold, since I spend most of the day tailoring my words as to be understandable to people who don't speak English as a first language.