Horror

[Corey]

hey this tread is about horror movies books and stuff.

-IT owns coz it scary
-America sucks coz they rip asian horror movie and americainize them...
-IT,The Eye 1 & 2, The Ring (Asian) , Darkwaters(Asian) and Ju-On: The grudge are awsome!!
-Steven King is the best horror writer!!!!!!

ok thats all i wanted to say...
post all your horror stuff here!!

and stay evil!!!!  8)

[Ishmael]

Teh horror.

[Darth Mandarb]

The scariest movie I ever saw ??  It was called "The Search Feature".

Here's a synapsis ...

-America sucks coz they rip asian horror movie and americainize them...

Rrrrright ... because an asian movie full of asian culture and language would do soooooo much better in an American culture than a version of the movie geared towards the market which it's being played in.

Good point!

[Squinky]

I don't get horror movies actaully, and never watch them because they bore me. They seem to work off of two main concepts to get people interested, using suspense or extreme gore, both of which don't really get me going.

[LGM]

Oh... Another one of you "STEPHEN KING OWNZ" kids?

Yea, I used to think that... In 7th grade..

That's not to say SK is a bad writer. I just don't think his books are that scary. He's good at creating characters, for sure. But not really all that scary.

I would say maybe Clive Barker is probably scarier... At least, more twisted.

[Eggie]

I used to avoid horror movies because I was convinced they would traumatise me to buggery and I'd never be able to sleep again.
Turns out I love them, especially the cheesy, dated ones. I have a lot of catching up to do...

I'd say the key to effective horror has less to do with the style in which the story is told and more to do with just having a genuinly scary initial idea. The film/novel/game/comic/sausage can be total crap and still do it's job if you've got a spooky idea.

One day I'm gunna come up with a really fucked up, original, scary idea...Then you'll see! You'll ALL see!

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

I am quite the horror film fanatic.  With well over 150 films in my collection (many of which are classics in the truest sense of the word) I watch very little else.  Depending on my mood, my taste runs the gamut from serious and gritty (John Carpenter's The Thing) to extremely over-the-top cheese (Army of Darkness, The Undertaker and his Pals).  You do realize, Corey, that America was making films (and especially horror films) well before Japan ever did?  Funny how you didn't mention the many films they've ripped off in their time.

[LimpingFish]

You do realize, Corey, that America was making films (and especially horror films) well before Japan ever did?

Actually you're very wrong. The Japanese film industry was fairly healthy before the onset of WW2. The made films in all genres too. During the late thirties and early forties the only films being made were propoganda for the Japanese war effort, thought. But horror films, and all genres in general, came back into vogue during the fifties.

I suggest you read this book...
http://www.kfccinema.com/features/articles/tokyoscope/tokyoscope.html
...for more information on Japanese horror films.

Plus, most of the early American horror films were actually made by European film-makers, and borrowed heavily from the already established European style, particularly the German expressionest silent movies of the twenties.

[rharpe]

Scariest film I've seen would be "Dance Your Pants Off with Richard Simmons" Those Actresses and actors are HUGE! And you never know when one of them will eat Richard... *sobs* (you just really don't know...)

All joking aside, the "Exorcist" would be the one that scares me the most. (Being Catholic, I know exorcisms are very real!)

[Nine Toes]

I love horror movies, and although I don't think many of the horror movies released today are really scary enough (if at all) to be worthy of the title "horror movie", I don't exactly think American horror movies suck.

I agree 100% with what Darth said.  Then again, I don't really blame you for not realising that the Japanese' perception of horror is very different from the American's view.  It can be very spine chilling.  Because I think the one thing that is the scariest is what you don't understand.

"IT" used to be scary (when I was 10), the Grudge wasn't really that scary, I thought the  Ring was pretty lame.

Stephen King is an ok writer, but what about Wes Craven?  John Carpenter?  M. Night Shyamalan does a pretty good job, too.

[[Cameron]]

I'm agreeing with Mr Hyde there about new horror movies. SK is a good writer but some of his newer stuff falls flat. My favourite horror writer is Robert Bloch (Can't beat Psycho )

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

Me also loves Stephen King. Me used to love him not because it was scary, precisely, but rather because of the emotions he conveys. Because of his characters. Because of they way they are alive, and because of the way they react. The "mass stampede" scene in Dreamcatcher, the whole "lottery" in Storm of the Century, and so on... I'll never argue he's one of the top writers (Clive Barker and Peter Straub would be THOSE), but he's without a doubt one of the best storytellers I've ever seen.

Funny thing, horror. Somewhere alone the line horror became something like "gore" and "bloodfest". Dunno why. That provokes revulsion, which can only faintly be compared to horror. I mean, sure, it's horrific to see all that gore and all those people die, but the genre "horror" is so much more than that. In fact, we Portuguese call it "Terror", even though we also have the word "horror". I like that better. It involves actual fright, as opposed to the broader, sometimes cruder "horror".

For me, a good horror film is a psychological horror flick. In that regard, I think SK (on account of the way his characters are created and set free) has good a bloody good job. But sure - there are others, more appealing in other areas: you can't beat the imaginarium of CLive Barker. But you know what? I prefer Barker as a "fantasy" writer. Imajica, Weaveworld, Galilee, theya re so much better than Coldheart Canyon and Hellbound Heart.

EDIT - For a good read of the way the genre has been presented to us I reccomend King's "Danse Macabre". For that matter, for a good reading about writing itself I reccomend his "On Writing". I've known of people who, by principle, never read Stephen King become much more acceptive after they read "On Writing".

[Pet Terry]

Horror movies = yay. Except for IT, it doesn't count as a horror movie. Even though I'm not as fanatic as ProgZ, I do love horror movies and try to convince my friends to rent them whenever we meet up to watch movies.

When I was a kid I found 'The Exorcist' and 'Nightmare on Elm Street' scary, I was horrified after seeing certain scenes from those movies. Then there was a mini series where aliens abducted people, I couldn't sleep properly for a couple of weeks after seeing it. It wasn't horror though, but I was young and found it scary.

Favourites:
- The Shining
- The Wicker Man
- Nightmare on Elm Street
- Killer Klowns from Outer Space
- The Thing
- The Invisible Man
- Evil Dead
- Night of the Living Dead
- 28 Days Later
- Halloween

Braindead is good too, and gory. Hellraiser and Cabin Fever are gory too. Dreamcatcher was strange. The Blob is fun. The Exorcist 2 is the worst movie ever. Critters is teh lol.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

Braindead is horror? I honestly thought it was comedy. And I wouldn't say Dreamcatcher was horror - neither film nor book. Suspense, maybe. Even though IMHO the film was a travesti (but then, I'd read and loved the book).

Re Braindead - I never though a serious horror flick would have a karate priest who'd yell "I kick ass for the lord!"

[jetxl]

-America sucks coz they rip asian horror movie and americainize them...

Rrrrright ... because an asian movie full of asian culture and language would do soooooo much better in an American culture than a version of the movie geared towards the market which it's being played in.

Good point!

Asian horror movies are more about ordinary everday people, so they have more of a ''this could happen to you'' feel. While with American horror movies always feels like ''just a movie''. Maybe because they spent all of the money on special effecs and boobs. Asian films are always filmed in a drifferent angle, and that's just how I like my coffee.
Most survival horror games are from Japan too.

Wes Craven brought the horror flic back to a-movie status, but nothing else has changed (except now-a-days you have the strong leading actres that instead of running and falling, try to face the fear. And we're suppose to go "How boundbreaking. We're in awe").

Has anyone played ObsCure? I only played a little bit but it was scary. It reminded me of alot of school horror movies like The Faculty.

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[Corey]

Asian horror movies just have style coz they dont have to let some1 gte killed every 2 sec to make it interesting...

I dont think any writer writes stories that really scares me... not Steven King not any writer ( ohh i gues im just pure evil)

Its a shame i know but i never seen EXORCIST...

Most Americain horror movies are about a thing that kills people, and that most times bores me...

Sleepy Hollow is the best movie ripped for some kind of fairy tale i've ever seen...!! 

stay evil  8)

[LGM]

Asian horror movies just have style coz they dont have to let someone gte killed every 2 sec to make it interesting...

Okay, Corey.. I've lost all respect for you now.

[IM NOT TEH SPAM]

You know, I think my signature speaks for itself when it comes to the whole "america sucks coz it rips off asian" bullcrap.  You see, in my opinion, when it happens (not too often, just two or three movies I heard of) it sucks.  A LOT.  but, out of all types of movies, I don't really like horrors.  They just aren't scary to me. 

"Oh no, evil zombiemen go out and eat all those poor people! AHH :o"
Anyone who ever played doom knows that a good ol' fashioned double barreled shotgun is all you need to kill a cyberdemon, which is like, 600000 zombies put together, so why bother being scared?


And as for the exorcist, that was funny.  I watched it with my older brother, we were laughing our asses off.  A little girl twisting her head around entirely and stabbing her leg with a cross!  You can't tell me you don't see the comedy in that. 
The only reason it was scary when it came out were because of the subliminal messages behind the little girl... in such a quick instant your concianse mind couldn't understand you'd have seen a picture of a demon over a little girl's face.  That would be scary, but it was made illegal in america after disney put subliminal messages of naked ladies in Pocohantes...

[Kweepa]

Its a shame i know but i never seen EXORCIST...

The Exorcist is probably the film that creeped me out the most.
That, or "Whistle and I'll Come to You" starring Michael Hordern (yes, the Paddington Bear narrator!).

It disturbs me that kids these days are so desensitized that they find The Exorcist funny.
But "stabbing her leg", now that's funny!

[IM NOT TEH SPAM]

It's amazing... by the time the exorcism was over, her leg wasn't all bloody and scarred and beat up and bandaged, but was fine...