Star Wars: EPISODE III Thread

Started by Blackthorne, Sun 25/07/2004 10:10:57

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Blackthorne

The title for Episode III has been announced.


REVENGE of THE SITH

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It's kind of a throw back to "Revenge of The Jedi", no?

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That's the SECOND crappiest Star wars title I've ever heard!

Will it be good?
Will it smell?
Will we get to see Anakin go all evil and stuff?
Will Jaja be in it?

GASP! All will be reveled.

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Babar

I believe it was "RETURN of the Jedi". I am not really expecting much from this movie though. I will probably watch it for the sake of the other movies. For a sense of completion. I mean, it has the Hayden guy as Anakin
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Peefy

Babloyi: Return of the Jedi? You are confusing it with episode 6(?)..
Anyway,
what a un-original title.
I do not expect much, considering episode 1 and 2..

Babar

nono...Blackthrone said that it was a throwback to "Revenge of the Jedi", I was just clarifying that the name was "Return of the Jedi"
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Lazy Z

Well, it sounds better than "The Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones", but it's still not that great. Not that I expect the movie to be any better. I'll still watch it when it comes out, if only because I used to be a Star Wars fanboy some 10 years ago. Let's hope Lucas gets this one right (or at least less wrong than episodes 1 and 2).
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Aaw. That name kinda sucks.
Anyway, im positive that this one will be the best one of the new movies.
Cant wait to see how Anakin "takes care" of the Jedi Order and the Senate. ;D
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scotch

Not that I'm a Star Wars nerd at all or can even remember much about the movies, but from reading a few slashdot comments on this story I gather Revenge of the Jedi was the working title for Return of the Jedi, but it was changed because revenge was un-Jedi-like apparently.  That is probably what BlackThorne was referring to.

http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/revengeofthejedi.txt

It doesn't particularly sound bad or good to me, it's an acceptable title, as were all the others...

viktor

I read in a magazine that the starwars series was supose to hawe 8 titels. But then when the third was complete they desided to make only 6. Can you imagine what a crappy film the 8th film would be. Considering the episode 1 and 2 were total crap (especialy 2)
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Babar

arrr.. I did not know that. My bad...
1 and 2 were OK movies. I just didn't like the actors who played Anakin, and the way he behaves. In the 1st movie Anakin seemed a disobedient brat, and was played by a brat (don't know if he was disobedient :)). In the 2nd movie, well....Anakin was ok, but I say it again, Hayden was BAD
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Flippy_D

Oh, come now. The Phantom Menace as a title is awesome. As a movie, of course, it's lacking.

Attack of the Clones did a little better, 3 might just be a return to form. Possibly.

Wormmaster

But hey!

It's Return of the Jedi, not the Revenge of the Jedi, Damn it! >:(

LGM

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I don't see why hundreds of thousands of geeks are creaming their pants just because the new Star Wars title has been announced. It doesn't matter if it has the most awesome sounding name in the world (like "Star Wars Episode III: Anakin Goes Apeshit") the movie will still suck anus.

What am I basing that on?

Well, the first two sucked MAJOR DONKEY ANUS, so I don't see any reason why this pattern should differ.

"But DG, you don't know that for sure. The third movie might be different and cool and stuff," is probably what you're saying. Fat chance, especially if there's another monologue from Anakin about how Armadillo's face tastes as delicious as sand. C'mon, Lucas. I know you're not skint and I know you've got the ability to write decent scripts (such as American Graffiti) that don't appeal to fanboy culture. Quit with this "Revenge of Sith" shit. What the fuck is Sith anyway? Sounds to me like a venereal disease.
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QuoteIt's Return of the Jedi, not the Revenge of the Jedi, Damn it! Angry

Actually... When the first made the movie, they decided on the title Revenge of the Jedi. There were even posters made with that title on them. There's a rumour circalling that they changed it because revenge wasn't something a Jedi would feel. I personally think it's for another reason.

Around that time, there was another science fiction movie coming out... Star Trek 2: The Revenge of Khan. Now, I figured the producers of the two films realised that they both had Revenge in the title, and changed their names. Star Wars became "Return of the Jedi", and Star Trek became "The Wrath of Khan".
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Darth Mandarb

Aha!!Ã,  My favorite topic of debate!

I think Revenge of the Sith is a bloody BRILLIANT title!!Ã,  The true Star Wars fans know (as scotch pointed out) that the original title of Episode VI was, "Revenge of the Jedi" but revenge isn't a quality of the Jedi so the title was changed.Ã,  However revenge is totally a quality of the Sith!!Ã,  And as Darth Maul said in tPM, "At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi ... at last, we will have our revenge!"Ã,  It's perfect.Ã,  Oh, and technically, the 'working' title of RotJ was, "Blue Harvest" (just being anal and know-it-all :))

Now, personally, I liked the first two movies ...

I think a lot of people's problems with the prequels is that they're basing them [the films] off of child-hood memories of wonderment upon seeing the first trilogy ... and there's simply NO way to out do that.Ã,  The prequels could NEVER live up to the original.Ã,  (Not to mention that when Star Wars first came out people had never seen special effects like that, but when the prequels time came around people were used to seeing Special Effects.Ã,  I think some of the problems of the original trilogy were overlooked as you stared in awe at the special effects.)

I consider this and take it to heart when watching the prequels.

If people go in knowing it's not going to be better than the OT (Original Trilogy) I think they'd be less disappointed (just my theory).Ã,  I went in under these assumptions and was quite pleased with the films.

It was nice seeing hints of future events.Ã,  It was great seeing Darth Vader as an innocent (albeit annoying) child.Ã,  The meeting between Anakin and Obi-wan gave me goosebumps in tPM.Ã,  The part in AotC when Obi-Wan tells Anakin, "I fear you'll be the death of me one day." sent chills up my spine.

Sure there are some problems with dialogue and acting ... but Mark Hammill never won an Oscar!

As a die-hard Star Wars fan for me it's the 'essence' of Star Wars that comes through.Ã,  Wondering how the galaxy far, far away came to be how it was in Ep. IV and now getting to see it happen.Ã,  Wondering for years what the clone wars were like.Ã,  Wanting to see Jedi in their prime wielding lightsabers.Ã,  Seeing the birth of the Empire (which is what I thought the third movie should have been called).Ã,  All of this outshines annoying JarJar, or a little 'brat' playing Anakin, or some campy dialogue.

Now I know there are those who'll just say, "No Darth, you're wrong ... they just suck!" and if that's truely your opinion then fine.Ã,  You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.Ã,  (Now, of course, when DG says he doesn't like it, I believe him :))

My theory on the situation is this:
In 20 years Episodes I-VI will be Star Wars ... people won't call them the OT and the PT anymore.Ã,  It'll be a whole series.

LGM

I see your point, Darth. But the reason Star Wars did so well is because of it's innovations in cinema and special effects. Personally, I think the originial trilogy is fun to watch once or twice in a blue moon.. But the films don't really hold much redeeming qualities now that I think about it. The direction isn't that spectacular, the acting is sub-par, and the plotis of the cookie cutter fashion. The universe is "unique" I guess, but most of the coolness about it is added on by authors and fans in thousands of books and fan films and whatever that exist out there, and is never let known to the people that just watch the movie. The characters are cool, I guess... But the films just aren't THAT amazing.

Big part of cinema history? Yes. Greatest movies ever? No

And you're right, alot of it was overlooked by the "WOW! OMG, LASERS!" shock value of such neat effects.

George Lucas knows this, and is, IMO, exactly why he makes EVERYTHING digital in the prequels. The same, "OMG, SHE'S EATING A DIGITAL FRUIT!" shock value is what he wants to try to do to get the movies to be popular and great.

But movie goers today aren't easily fooled or pleased like that anymore. We can tell when a movie's plot and acting suck. Hence, the prequels just aren't great. High production values? Yes. Big part of cinema history? No, not really.

I can see why die-hard Star Wars fans would still love the prequels. They've devoted such a big part of their lives to these films, and probably know marginally more than the average fan. But IMO.. The prequels had SO much potential, and Lucas just threw it down the toilet. Although, I have to admit, AotC had some neat opening and ending action scenes. I applaud that. But OMG, DIGITAL EVERYTHING!!!!!
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Don't get me wrong ... there are things in the prequels that I really don't like (the announcer of the pod race from tPM for one) but, as I said, it's more the 'essence' of Star Wars that I enjoy.

And there are some moments in the prequels that just scream out Star Wars to me.

Anakin asks, "Where are you going?"
Obi-Wan replies, "To get a drink."

Anakin, "Don't worry, I've given up trying to argue with you."

I like to think that the difference in culture, dialogue, and behaviors in the prequels is because it's a more 'civlized' time (as ol' Ben tells Luke in A New Hope).Ã,  After 16 years of Imperial oppresion and terror the galaxy (in the OT) is a FAR different place.Ã,  Which is why the two series feel so different. [/rationalization]

And I would also agree that GL just wanted to be a pioneer again in using ALL digital cameras to film the second one.Ã,  But let me be the first to say, I've seen AotC on a DLP and it's breath-taking!Ã,  Simply amazing!!

I don't think GL is dumb ... I think he knew that these movies wouldn't compete with the OT.Ã,  So he decided to be a pioneer of digital technology (more so than he already was!).Ã,  I truely believe GL wanted to make these movies 'cause he wanted to finish the story (or complete it I guess ... as Ep. VI actually finishes it).Ã,  He would have done it even if only 10 people were going to see it.Ã,  While there are definately things I would have done differently it is, in the end, HIS story ... I admire him for telling it the way he wanted to.

I don't personally 'love' the prequels ... I just don't feel they're as shitty as everybody thinks.Ã,  I still maintain that the third one will tie everything together and that the series, as a whole, will be a great, FULL, story!

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