Star Wars: EPISODE III Thread

[2ma2]

Isn't his "fake" parents named Skywalker? It would be more odd if he didn't have the name of his allegied parents you know.. Furthermore, Padme names them, Anakin does not know that he has childs, nor their names, so he can't exactly get Herodes on the star systems, hunting down every firstborn. So hiding Luke on Tatooine is rather clever IMO. Who'd suspect it?

Obi-Wan however, and keeping the name Kenobi.. that's just asking for trouble! No, learn from Yoda; get a trunk in the middle of nowhere and eat muck for the rest of your life..

[Darth Mandarb]

Luke's 'fake' parents (his aunt and uncle actually ) last name is "Lars".

It just seems to me that, even though the galaxy is a big place, the name Skywalker on Tatooine isn't a good idea.  Considering that young Anakin was well known on Tatooine.  The name Skywalker was known.  I think Luke should have been called Luke Lars at the beginning of Star Wars.

I'm guessing that Vader and the Emperor (aided by a big suit and mask of Vader) spread rumors that Anakin Skywalker, the powerful and well known Jedi, was killed by Vader.  That lends credence to what Obi-Wan tells Luke (in ep4) and also makes more sense.  It seems to me that Leia, growing up with a senator that was crucial to the events of ep3, would know the name Anakin Skywalker and would know Luke was Anakin/Vader's son IF she knows that Vader IS Anakin.

[Andail]

Somehow, "Luke Lars" strike me as much less awesome than "Luke Skywalker".
I dunno, just my first reaction.

[Las Naranjas]

How about the fact that there never really was a great plot scheme planned out, the vast majority of the story line being built on off the cuff comments originally added to create the illusion of depth, and thus all continuity is being pasted onto what is already here with shoddy results, hence the constant editing of the original material.


Seriously, when they release a cartoon series bridging the gap between 3 and 4 it will involve the anti-monitor destroying the multiverse and creating a new one, where technology and fighting are inferior despite apparent progress.

They're pulpy pastiches, nothing more, stop treating them like they are! [that goes for most things with an expanded universe]

[evenwolf]

interesting points, Las.

WAIT!    I just realized the Secret of Monkey Island!  Who wants to hear?

[BerserkerTails]

Okay, Darth. I need a question answered...

So Annie is 9 years old in Ep. 1 when he leaves his mother. Now there's about 10 years between Episode 1 and 2. During this time, Shmi Skywalker gets sold by Watto to Lars, who she marries.

Now in Ep. 2, when Owen and Anakin meet, one of them says "So, you're my half-brother" or something like that. One would assume then, from that line, that Owen is the son of Lars and Shmi, right? That would make Owen Luke's Uncle.

So how can Owen look so old? He can't be more than 10 years old, but in Episode 2, he looks at least 17. I keep just thinking that perhaps Lars had another wife who bore Owen, but then what happened to her?

[Darth Mandarb]

Okay, Darth. I need a question answered...

So Annie is 9 years old in Ep. 1 when he leaves his mother. Now there's about 10 years between Episode 1 and 2. During this time, Shmi Skywalker gets sold by Watto to Lars, who she marries.

Now in Ep. 2, when Owen and Anakin meet, one of them says "So, you're my half-brother" or something like that. One would assume then, from that line, that Owen is the son of Lars and Shmi, right? That would make Owen Luke's Uncle.

So how can Owen look so old? He can't be more than 10 years old, but in Episode 2, he looks at least 17. I keep just thinking that perhaps Lars had another wife who bore Owen, but then what happened to her?

Owen is Anakin's "step" brother.  He's Cleigg Lars' son from another women named Aika (who had died years before).  I would guess that he's also older than Anakin by about 10 years, given how old he looks at the time of epIV.

So in ep2 I would guess he's actually about 28 or so.  Just a guess.  Nothing (that I could find) at Star Wars .com says anything about Owen's age!

[Kinoko]

Once again, Maddox has succeeded in wonderfully demonstrating the shittiness of something.

[Sam.]

this may have been asked before, but this is a really long thread.
why does yoda say at the end, that qui-gon has discovered immortality? of what relevance does this have? we never see qigon again, we never see anything about immortality, so, why does this comment get put in? i also don't understand what it means, if the immortality thing is the turining into nothing when they die and become blue ghosts, then why didn't qui gon do that when HE died? he just plain old died and was burned. explanation please?

[jetxl]

It's a plothook for a future francise.

[evenwolf]

No its a disclaimer, or rather a plothook for a past franchise.


In the old movies Obi Wan could communicate to Luke despite being dead.  Hence, if they threw that one line in the movie, fans could only complain about a lack of logic - rather than a lack of explaination.

[Adamski]

I think from now on i'll let The Guardian argue for me:

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1477031,00.html

[juncmodule]

I think the immortality thing was meant to be irony about Anakin. If Padme had died he could have spoken to her for his entire life. Yoda actually had the key to the secret power that the emperor was claiming that he had (and seduced Anakin with). At the same time it was the way to explain that Qui-Gon never spoke to Ben in the prequels, yet Ben speaks to Luke as everyone already mentioned. I thought that was a nice little addition to the whole Anakin leaving the Jedi and Sith seduction thing.

later,
-junc

[Potch]

I don't think just anyone can come back as a ghost, which would preclude Anakin from talking to Padme if she had died.  I'm pretty sure it is only the jedi that have that power.

Also, I don't think that a jedi can come back as a ghost forever.  I read Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy a long time ago, which i've been told is the closest story to what Lucas's vision would have been had he made the next three... anyway, in that book, Luke was facing some hard times, because Obi Wan made his last visit to Luke as a ghost.  I remember him saying something like his time was up, and it was time to move on or something... it's been awhile.

[Paper Carnival]

Also, I don't think that a jedi can come back as a ghost forever.

What good is immortality that doesn't last forever?

[Potch]

I don't know.  I could be wrong about it though.  It was a long time ago that I read that book.

[juncmodule]

You're right, I think. I read those about 10 years ago and although I don't remember them very well that does sound familiar.

Also, after thinking about it for a second I think you're right about the ghost thing. Guess I was trying to read too much into that.

later,
-junc

[Haddas]

I've seen it twice now. I think there are some powerfull scenes in that movie. The thing with the kids at the temple just broke my heart... and the first breath through the new suit... Powerfull indeed.

[Babar]

Also, I don't think that a jedi can come back as a ghost forever. I read Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy a long time ago, which i've been told is the closest story to what Lucas's vision would have been had he made the next three... anyway, in that book, Luke was facing some hard times, because Obi Wan made his last visit to Luke as a ghost. I remember him saying something like his time was up, and it was time to move on or something... it's been awhile.

I have that book! Yup, Obi Wan visits Luke the last time in a dream. He says that he won't be able to come again. However, even the starwars site says that Lucas is not bound by the books of the extended universe.

[Phemar]

I take this moment to admit that I almost cried when Anakin tried to kill Padme.