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MrColossal

So was I, but more often than not, no matter how quick a girl likes 'em, a guy can be quicker!

Damn our hides!

In the Wild West of Sex, we'd be kings!
"This must be a good time to live in, since Eric bothers to stay here at all"-CJ also: ACHTUNG FRANZ!

Kinoko

True, true. Speaking only for myself through, and trying to be as ambiguous as I can, for me... it's not that... that does that... it's before... so if that's quick... I'm okay with that...

Las Naranjas

Ah, so if Mars is in Virgo before the equinox then you're alright with it, you frisky little pussycat.
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Kinoko

Perhaps. I'm not sure I know what's being said anymore.  :-\

The Inquisitive Stranger

Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 01:34:10
All true, but that doesn't take away from my original point. It's still one of those things that people will never stop doing all the time for fun. I kind of went through a 'meh' period of a couple of years in regards to sex, but it's been rediscovered ten fold. Everyone's different but you have to accept that sex IS highly valued by people, in general, and no amount of education or segregation or over-exposure will ever get rid of the fact. I just think we all need to acknowledge man's and woman's desire for sex as a constant.

Do I HAVE to accept it? Can't I just tolerate it?
Actually, I HAVE worked on a couple of finished games. They just weren't made in AGS.

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By CoveredInSLUDGE:
QuoteIn my opinion, sex is overrated. Sure, it's fun, but it pales in comparison to many other higher pursuits.

Marry me.  But no kids, ok?  Can't stand 'em!

Squinky

But who would do your chores Prog?

I have three kids, one is eight, four and a year old. They're all boys, and a handful, but at the end of the day I tell myself someday, someday I will be sitting in my lawnchair drinking lemonaid while they mow the  lawn/wash the car.

And I too, have We built this city stuck in my head. But is that a bad thing?

big brother

I leave this thread alone for a day or so, and it grows upwards like some unwanted vine pushing through the broken glass on a greenhouse roof. Soon ignorance is crawling in through the window like a jungle viper, ready to unleash its venom of absurdity upon every occupant in the entire skyscraper we call the AGS forums!

Quote from: Mordalles on Tue 31/01/2006 00:55:30
now that i know what women are, thanks to big brother . . . what is sex?

Normally, I would tell you that it's an activity that happens to women at gas stations before (and sometimes after) the trucker strangles them. Or that it's a number in German. However, since sex is a broad topic, and I think we can learn something by analyzing several opinions of those less-educated.

Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 31/01/2006 01:25:00
I find sex much much fun but it doesn't last very long. At least in my case it lasts around 2 minutes (with the pre-stuff nad the undressing). Am I doing something wrong? ;D

Yes. Never pre-stuff nad the undressing! Leave that to the Japanese.

Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 31/01/2006 01:36:21
I think that it is good that sex is fun!

Wrong! All sex is not fun. Even if it were, this would not be good. A little carefully applied critical thinking will keep us from falling into logical pitfalls like this one.

Quote from: Nikolas on Mon 30/01/2006 23:06:24
Condoms take the fun out of sex!Ã,  ;D

Oh, so not ALL sex is fun. Maybe you should add that to your previous assertion, you little hypocrite!

Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 00:04:55
Condoms make sex less fun, and we all know it.

Wrong and WRONG. Think of a condom as a lifejacket for the penis. Now you may watch Olympic swimmers compete in goggles and trunks on the television, and think “Wheee, that looks fun. I bet I could do that!” The answer, of course, is no. These athletes have spent a lifetime of training to be able to swim without a lifejacket IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT. When swimmers grow accustomed to their lane, they learn their limits (their own stamina, the depth of the pool, etc.). This is very different from the neighborhood snot who jumps headfirst into the creek behind your house, breaking his rotten neck and offering his brain as amoeba-fodder.Ã, 
Now the Olympics don't air a disclaimer before the segment. Why, you ask? The reason is simple: no one in their right fucking mind watches the program and, in a fit of inspiration, dives into the English Channel without protection.

Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 31/01/2006 01:37:50
...casual sex doesn't have to hurt...

Are you honestly suggesting that, in spite of your “Colossal” name, you can have intercourse (casual or otherwise) without causing your partner pain?
So why does sex = pain then? Pain communicates dominance over a partner. It reinforces gender roles. Watch some old movies or sitcoms carefully. You'll notice that when the man arrives home from work, the wife flees to the kitchen. What is she afraid of? She could take refuge in any room of the house, so why the kitchen? These questions all point back to the function of sex as conditioned stimulus (in this case, as either positive or negative punishment, where positive is the addition of a negative stimulus as the consequence of an undesired response, while negative is the removal of a negative stimulus as the consequence of a desired response).

Or in layman's terms, “I'm going to bone you because you didn't make me a sandwich” versus “I'm going to bone you until you make me a sandwich”.

Quote from: jfritzyb on Mon 30/01/2006 21:31:47
Sex is great!

Again, this is not true. I had sex with you last night, and I'm sorry I didn't say it then, since you seemed so proud of yourself, but it was like boning a pillow. Boring and lots of feathers. And the pillow will never be the same…

Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07

In my opinion, sex is overrated. Sure, it's fun...

You are probably doing something wrong. Please re-read my answer to Nik's first question. The fun part seems to be a common misconception.

Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07
...when a husband and wife... er, I mean, a man and a woman... er, I mean, two consenting adults... er, I mean, n consenting adults, where n = 1 to infinity... er, I mean, n consenting human beings... er, I mean, n consenting organisms... okay, that's enough; my brain hurts.

Math has little to do with sex, unless you're talking about my second definition. We can confidently add this jibberish to the list of other widespread myths like: the Grafenberg spot, punk music on the radio, and female politicians.
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MrColossal

Quote from: big brother on Tue 31/01/2006 06:11:39

Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 31/01/2006 01:37:50
...casual sex doesn't have to hurt...

Are you honestly suggesting that, in spite of your “Colossal” name, you can have intercourse (casual or otherwise) without causing your partner pain?

I didn't say with a woman!
"This must be a good time to live in, since Eric bothers to stay here at all"-CJ also: ACHTUNG FRANZ!

Gregjazz

Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07
In my opinion, sex is overrated.

Whenever I hear someone say that, I tend to think they're doing something wrong... ;)

Helm

I'm impressed by how consistently not funny big brother was on his post above.

QuoteDo I HAVE to accept it? Can't I just tolerate it?

You've made an effort twice in this thread to present this distinction, whereas I see it, I'm not sure it's all that important. Acceptance does imply a degree of agreement, but it can be an agreement to the basic fact that humans are different and do a startling range of things. In that sense, agreement with this observation can lead to the acceptance of practices you might find personally immoral, without the danger of hypocrisy, but at the expence of the 'objective' quality of your chosen morality. If it is and I hope it is that you think your morality is subjective, then no loss.

Example, although quite a fierce moral relativism one: I might not ethically condone murder under any circumstances, but I choose not to extend my moral principle to other people, and therefore I accept that there might be people who consider murder under specific circumstances (like in wartime, or in protection of property or kin) to be ok. I don't passively tolerate them for it, I accept them. The big issue of this approach though is, that such moral relativism sort of neuters much of the effect morality as a social construction, is supposed to have. That's though, a whole different discussion.



Now about the sex side of things in this topic, I have to add: I fuck goats.
WINTERKILL

Nikolas

Quote from: Helm on Tue 31/01/2006 07:09:15
Now about the sex side of things in this topic, I have to add: I fuck goats.
Try to be more original. Everybody knows you fuck goats!
But of course it's not about originality, but about LOVE! Yeah! ;D

The Inquisitive Stranger

#92
Ah. Finally, someone replied.

"Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn't mean you have to approve of it! If you had to like it, it'd be called the Museum of Acceptance! 'Tolerate' means you're just putting up with it! You tolerate a crying child sitting next to you on the airplane or, or you tolerate a bad cold. It can still piss you off! Jesus Tapdancing Christ!"
- Mr. Garrison, South Park

Why is tolerance "passive" and acceptance "active"? Both seem equally passive to me; acceptance being even more so. Acceptance, to me, seems to be more of a "whatever, do what you want" thing, whereas tolerance is more of a Voltaire thing. ("I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.")

Doesn't a relativist view of morality undermine the need for morality altogether?
Actually, I HAVE worked on a couple of finished games. They just weren't made in AGS.

The Inquisitive Stranger

#93
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 31/01/2006 07:53:11
But of course it's not about originality, but about LOVE! Yeah! ;D

Grr... another thing I find irritating: mixing up love and sex, and also, considering romantic love to be the highest (if not only) form of love.
Actually, I HAVE worked on a couple of finished games. They just weren't made in AGS.

Nikolas

But this kind of love is what I'm talking about.
Helm is obsessed with goats and adores them... ;D

Now, you must now by now that most of my posts here are just ridiculous, but still it is funny... especially after the story of the new guy, this goten WAY out of hand and fortunately it was BBs turn to save the day! ;D

Kinoko

Well, I'll clear something up. Whether you want to call it tolerance, or acceptance, what I mean by "Accept the fact people wont stop having sex" (or whatever I said) is acknowledge it's a fact. Which is it :D

jfritzyb

...Interesting that a lot of you agreed with the main crux of my issue. You all know that a child needs love and needs to be given love at a young age from their parents. However...you think that it doesn't really matter what you do in order to get the kid to begin with--or raising him. And that is astounding!

I thought you cared--I thought you had the best interests of the child at heart. I thought you wanted the child to have a happy home--where he does have a mother and father who love him enough to take care of him and tend to his needs. It's what a father and mother do best--provide for the child's needs while they grow up.

Why a mother AND a father? Because the father has a kind of authority that the mother doesn't have--and I'm sorry, but that's just the way things are. You and I both know it...and a child needs that kind of an authority figure in his life.

So, can we agree that yes, we should have the best interests of the child at heart? Don't you agree that a child should have a happy home where he has a mother and father to love him enough to take care of him and tend to his needs? And finally...don't you agree that this is one of the things these kind of parents do best--provide for the child's needs while they grow up?

....You know what? Maybe I should tell you about how I was raised so that you can see where I'm coming from with this...I had a mother and a father tend to my needs and take care of me as I grew up. My father loves my mother because I can tell and understand this fact of life--also, they're still together! And you know? I wouldn't have life any other way! The concept of two guys or two women "marrying" and "raising" children is foreign to me.

Something else...my dad and mom don't smoke, drink, sleep around with other folks, and shoot drugs. They don't physically or verbally abuse me (I regret the times I've argued and fought with them and yelled at them and whenever I do, I always apologize for it and try not to do it again.) And I do not say all this to be boastful.

.....

Unfortunately, these concepts are foreign to most people because most people don't have the kind of home I had. I don't look down on those kind of people; I love these kind of people.Ã, 

...If you don't mind, I'd like to know what your background is as well. I'd like to know what aspects of your life shaped the way you believe and the way you think.

Oh, and one last thing...Have you tried the Are You a Good Person Test? I've taken it a few times and it's pretty interesting...

Cheers friends,

-JJ

Nikolas

Ok, JJ you've aksed for it!

You can ask anybody in here to tell you about me, but I'll spare you that and give you some info on my own.

First of all take a second look at my avatar. Guess what: That is my son. And guess what else: I have a second younger son. And guess what else: I don't smoke, and I don't drink (excpet for beer... ahhh Homer), and don't shot drugs, I don't sleep around. And guess what: My parents are still together after 40 years of marriage (they're older than 70 people!). And guess what: when my mother is here (we live in a different country), she babyseats every single day.

So this is my background.

I'm happily married as many member here are. And I'm sure that Alynn is too.

I hope you're not taking seriously that fact that Helm has sex with goats. Cause if you do then stop! And don't take too seriously that I last 2 mintues (I have a record breaking of 4! lol)

At least for me (and other people here, for which I'm sure, but I can't speak for them): I care.

So just drop it!

So after all this do you think that you can understand the way I (or anybody) think and believe... I doubt it...

But we have goten off the wrong foot.

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Vince Twelve

JJ, did you get that condescending prick attitude from your loving mom or your loving dad?

P.S.  Since I am desperate for validation in any form in my life, I tried out your "Are you a good person?" test because I firmly believe that some guy on the internet will be able to, without having ever met me, give me a simple yes/no answer that will forever put the question to rest.  But when the first page of the test posed the question, "Are you good enough to go to heaven?" I threw up just a little and had to stop.  Must've been my broasted-fetus dinner.
P.P.S.  I slept with your parents last night.

modgeulator

Quote from: jfritzyb on Tue 31/01/2006 09:09:49
Have you tried the Are You a Good Person Test? I've taken it a few times and it's pretty interesting...

I got a perfect 10/10 guilty. Cool. I want to go to hell. I hear it's just one big party and a lot like the depictions I've seen in music videos on television.

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