Morals anyone?

[Las Naranjas]

Well of course he wasn't fat, the technicalities of the middle path prevent that, the fatness is symbolic of contentness.


On the Fish on a friday note, there used to be Beavers in Britain (no shit). But as they swam, they must be fish right? right???

Well, no, but it was used as an excuse to have red meat on a Friday, and they were hunted to extinction.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

The reason Budha is always happy is because Budhism has a wonderful phylosophy- people are made unhappy by wanting. If you don't want anything then you're a one happy chappy.

[wOoDz]

[But the strange thing is instead we eat chocolate eggs delivered by a rabbit.

hey cool, so you can see the bunny too?!

*rocks back 'n' forth, waiting for "the voices" to stop arguing.*

i can't recall anyone following the no fish on friday thing, catholics or other wise , then again we are probably just heathens in the north east of england

Meanwhile, you look at Jesus -- hanging on the cross, looking miserable and thinking, "Man, it sucks up here! And I have to come back to life in a couple of days! Being the Messiah is like sooo depressing!"

*everybody sing....always look on the bright side of life ...do .do ..doooo.....life a piece of shit...when you think of it, lifes a laff and death's a joke its true....*

sorry i had a moment with flash backs! no offence intended

woodz

[Paladin]

Yeah -- but my point is it's a happier religion than Christianity.

I would disagree, but I'm too tired to argue. I doubt you have enough proof to stand by a claim like that. But, whatever.


Also, but come on, it's no fun if you don't want anything! major boring. But I would agree, greed, envy, blah blah blah do cause alot of superfluous stress.

I'm gonna bring some points about happines. This is not my faith, but just stuff I'm pulling up. I'm not even sure I agree with some of them, I'm just blathering.

-Don't those people who are always stupid happy ever annoy you?

-Pain and suffering do bring strength. There not all that bad.

-Can you trully appreciate happiness if you never felt pain?

-What makes happiness so good? Isn't it a state where you are content where you are? progress depressent.

-happiness can often blind yourself to reality you.

-Not all in this world deserve a response of happiness.

As I said, I'm just pulling these out, some of them aren't my viewpoint.
I'm really tired now.

[DGMacphee]

Yeah -- but my point is it's a happier religion than Christianity.

I would disagree, but I'm too tired to argue. I doubt you have enough proof to stand by a claim like that. But, whatever.


Also, but come on, it's no fun if you don't want anything! major boring. But I would agree, greed, envy, blah blah blah do cause alot of superfluous stress.

I'm gonna bring some points about happines. This is not my faith, but just stuff I'm pulling up. I'm not even sure I agree with some of them, I'm just blathering.

-Don't those people who are always stupid happy ever annoy you?

-Pain and suffering do bring strength. There not all that bad.

-Can you trully appreciate happiness if you never felt pain?

-What makes happiness so good? Isn't it a state where you are content where you are? progress depressent.

-happiness can often blind yourself to reality you.

-Not all in this world deserve a response of happiness.

As I said, I'm just pulling these out, some of them aren't my viewpoint.
I'm really tired now.

I have no proof that would convince you, Paladin -- It's merely a subjective opinion, which I base upon symbols of worship (Statues of Buddha and Jesus on the cross).

I have enough proof that convinces me of my own preference, which leans toward buddhism.

I'm not trying to start a debate on which is the better religion.

As for true happiness, I have my own ideas upon this, but I don't think you'd accept them.

Therefore, I prefer not to publish them as I feel content in my knowledge.

When doubt comes, I ask a question, as you have done.

But I know you won't get any great philosophical meaning-of-life answers to your questions from me, which is why I won't answer them here on this board.

[Scid]

Religion is like a gun. It's essentially a great thing, but it should never be used against anybody.

[plasticman]

a gun is essentially a great thing ?

actually, religion is more like a public toilet. it stinks.

[Trapezoid]

Religion is like a name. Idiots are idiots, racists are racists, and putzes are putzes regardless of what their names are.

[Femme Stab Mode >:D]

 :
Honestly, anyone can worship anything, even a fork .

[TheYak]

I normally try not to get involved in religious threads but what the hell?  I was raised very Christian.  I found it too be a bit too much "Holier-than-thou" and too little in the substance department.  However, I don't hate Christians ... as long as they don't F with me.  And there is the basic tenant of my belief system: Don't screw with others - try not to do crap that'll mess up other people if you can help it.

BTW, wasn't this topic about whether or not to include potentially offensive religious content in a game?  It's been done before; with subtlety and not-so-much.  I say go for it if it's in keeping with your game's plot, just put a disclaimer/warning in the readme.txt and/or game announcement and nobody shouldn't be offended that doesn't deserve to be.  

To hell with PC.

[Paladin]

Religion is like a gun. It's essentially a great thing...

Guns cool. me like'm. Nobody dare take away my second amendment right!
though I don't own a gun...
actually, it's just power. In the right hands, it saves, wrong hands, murders. (NOTE: not to start another topic)

Haha... now you can stereotype me as a Right-Wing militaristic fundamentalist! Bring it!

And yeah, about "religiously offensive content," i don't know. I played Odyseuss Kent and was not offended. (oh, and you guys don't offend me, I just get heated... that's me, tho)
I'd say it's better to include content that shows flaws, like hypocrisy, but never go bashing. It doesn't go anywhere.
And don't stereoptype, like say all pastors are (fill in the blank), but maybe show that some are, but that doesn't need to be the case. But know what you are doing be for you do it. It's a touchy subject.

[Ghostmaker]

Hey religon is cool, it gives the hopeless hope, and as long as no boody fanatics comes knocking at my door asking if i have seen the light, im cool with them.

note: if you want to get rid of them, challange them to a duel then draw a sword and wave it around like a feather duster.

P.S. Buddism Rules, even if u aint buddist, u get into nirvana.(u have to be bloody good though)

[Timosity]

A couple of Mormans from America came to my Door in stereotypical fashion a few months ago and I tries to tell them about the movie Orgasmo by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, but they hadn't heard of it.  Well I didn't mention the name of it, I just wanted to know if they had heard of Trey and Matt.

They hadn't but had heard of South Park.

I had some friends at school that were Mormans and they didn't come across any differently to anyone else and didn't try to force their religion on you. different from door to door pushers, but I think that is something they have to do as Mormans at some time, I'm not sure

One of my best friends is Studying Theology and it's interesting to talk with him, he knows alot about many religions, It's good to have a discussion with someone that has different views to you but similar morals.
This guy also quit his $50,000 a year job straight out of Uni after passing top of his course with his scholarship Also finishing Year 12 with a TER of 99.65 (NSW score from early 90's  I don't even know what the system is now)
If I had this guys brain, I wouldn't be wasting it and earning hardly anything by choice, but you've got to hand it to him for following his heart, instead of becoming a millionaire at an early age he will feel better by saving people.

I can talk about religion with religious people I know, but nothing has convinced me so far, I think that is the point, you just have to believe without really knowing what's out there. blind faith might be the right term.

but at the end of the day no one knows, there is no way to know, you can just choose to believe or not, even then there is still doubt even within people that say they have no doubt.

We are probably just here, there is probably no reason for it, it's just a crazy phenomenon, a couple of atoms in the right place at the right time, or some god failing in chemistry. either way it probably won't be known in my life, or in death???

[remixor]

The guitarist in my band is Mormon, but a year ago he left to do his Mormon missionary deal.  He'll be back in a year.  I have very conflicting feelings about it.  On the one hand, I don't particularly like the idea of them going door-to-door (or whatever they do) in an attempt to convert people.  On the other hand, it's hard to really fault them TOO much since they really do think they're doing the right thing and they're not actually harming anyone besides being annoying.  He's never tried to convert any of our friends or criticised our beliefs, and we're a group consisting of a Catholic, a Jew, an atheist, and several agnostics (sounds like the setup to a stupid joke).  The Mormon religion is certainly one of the stranger Christian sects, and I'm not sure what to make of it.  They tend to get a bad rap for being overbearing, and I have indeed met a few who fall into that description, but most of the ones I've met seem quite accomodating.

[Las Naranjas]

My ancestor was excommunicated from the Mormon church in NSW for marrying a non Mormon. I don't think that was official policy even then, but they did it anyway.

Timosity-Little pointless facts, the TER became the UAI (University Admissions Index) which instead of being measured against all who did the HSC is measured againsted your entire Year 10 year, so everyone who dropped out has the lowest UAIs, and all most numbers are higher as a result.

[Matt Brown]

i'm a mormon.

las, yeah, that isnt policy. my uncle maried a no-mormon. we do it all the time here.

I kinda wodner why we get such a bad rap most of the time. I mean, there was no mormon inquisision. We never killed anybody, or were jerks, or tried to establish some holy empire. Sure, going door to door might be annoying to some people, but, all you have to do is ask us nicely to leave.

ALso, I plan on serving a mission when I turn 19. It isnt all about conversion, but also about sevice, (ex. I can go someplace to work and to help others). When you look at it that way, it isnt so bad. Sorta like a two year stint with the peace corps, only with a heavy religous slant.  and if people dont want to hear it, thats cool. We leave. I think it would be pretty cool if I end up being called some place like england or australia, (two places with a lot of AGSers,), and end up running into a few of you. that would be weird.


oh, timmy, whats the relationship between mormons and south park? I know the creators cant be mormon.

[Timosity]

Mr. Panda, it's to do with a movie they made, where Trey Parker was a Morman doing his door to door thing and ended up on a porno set, It was actually a really funny movie and there was no nudity in the whole thing.

He even stayed true to his faith, well I think, I can't remember the ending.

[Ghostmaker]

Hey Mr. Panda
u seem cool, if u ever get to melbourn, tell me, i can show u around.
as for mormans getting a bad rap. it not that you dont leave when we say no, it  the fact that your like people who ring you up on the phone and ask if you have a minute to fill in a questionair or if u have cable TV or somthing. they always call at a realy bad time, and so often you get sick of it intill u say "give me your home number and i will call you when u dont want me to".
(by the use of the word you and your, i mean followers of your religon who go door knocking)

[Matt Brown]

timostiy, now that you mention it...I have heard of that. plus, I think one of the makers of south park married a mormon or something, and then divorced her. they make jokes about mormons a lot.


like this one time, it showed heaven and hell, and all the priests were going to hell. one of them goes, "just for fun, which religion WAS right?"

and the dude in hell goes "lemme check.....ah! here it is! mormon! that was the answer!"

then it pans to heaven, and all the girls in pioneer dresses and missionary guys with bike helmets are all dancing around...


well, I thought it was funny

[Bob The Hun]

Just my comments..
I'm a Christian, and it says in the Bible, quite clearly, that even if we disagree with people, we are to respect their beliefs. Also, we are not to force beliefs on anybody. Another thing that it says in the Bible is that becoming a Christian is a choice, and that a Christian must accept Jesus into his heart on his own free will.
Just some comments I thought that I'd throw in there.
Also, as with people going door to door, just tell them that you're not interested and close the door. Besides, pretty much none of the Protestant denominations do that anyway. I think that calling people or going to their door and trying to force the gospel on people isn't at all what God wants us to do. We're supposed to just politely inform people of Jesus, and it's up to them from there on.
Some people seem to go a little too far, though.