Tintin movie

Started by Monsieur OUXX, Tue 01/11/2011 16:53:10

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Monsieur OUXX

Hey, I saw it, it wasn't so bad after all :-)
They shuffled some scenes from various albums (to introduce more characters in less time), but the story remains consistent.
The graphic style is a good compromise between the canon style and photorealistic CGI.
They turned Sakharine into a villain, but eh, could be worse.
Also the plot twists written from scratch (I won't spoil here) aren't too goofy nor cheesy.

I'm a Tintin fan, and I must say I was expecting the worst coming from Hollywood (see how they burnt the Smurfs license to the ground). But Spielberg and the crew did a good job here. You could even say he finally found here the space to do what he wanted to do in Indy 4 and shouldn't have (epic-yet-funny chases, anti-hero climaxes, etc.)
 

Babar

I've not read any of the Tintin comics (I was always more of a fan of Asterix, which was in the competing stack), but I thought it was good fun. I did get excited Indy style when he got on the sidecar :D. I was probably a bit tired beforehand anyhow, but I started getting a bit sleepy and waiting for it to finish near the end.

I don't know what happens in the comics, I guess they have it there, but it was a bit jarring to have "cartoon" characters shooting and waving guns at each other. I guess I am not used to that.

But yeah, fun stuff!
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steptoe

I used to watch Herge's adventures of Tintin as a kid..great stuff..     Not seen the film yet.  I hope they don't ruin it like most things film makers attempt >:(


Igor Hardy

Quote from: Babar on Tue 01/11/2011 21:23:26
I don't know what happens in the comics, I guess they have it there, but it was a bit jarring to have "cartoon" characters shooting and waving guns at each other. I guess I am not used to that.

The Tintin comics can be jarring to today's audience in a lot of ways as most of them have been created even before the war. I mean many of the episodes not only have violence, but also all kinds of racism, animal cruelty (despite many of the animals having human like minds) and propaganda bits.

That's also why I think a Spielberg version can't possibly stay true to the original. :P

Monsieur OUXX

Quote from: Ascovel on Tue 01/11/2011 21:34:08
many of the episodes not only have violence, but also all kinds of racism, animal cruelty and propaganda bits.

Yeah but except for the very early ones (tt in the land of the soviets, tt in America, tt in Congo), where it's awfully manichean, in the following albums it's usually rather (more and more) subtle. Also Tintin never shoots a guy, even though the bad guys shoot at him.

I saw the movie and I thought they kept all that pretty well. I mean, they didn't turn it childish or excessivley dark. That's one of the reasons why I've been pleasantly surprised!

After all, Haddock IS an alcoholic :)
 

Dualnames

I THINK TINTIN WAS GOOD WITH ITS RACISM.

Nah, but yeah, it's unfair to all the scum people that read Tintin just for that.
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Snarky

Argh, I'm so sick of the whole "Tintin was racist/fascist/Nazi" chestnut being trotted out every time the character is mentioned.

Tintin went on for nearly 50 years, from the 1920s to the 70s. A few of the earliest albums aren't quite politically correct today, but it doesn't get much worse than "Oh, those funny black people sure are lucky that we Belgians are here to run Congo for them." You'll find stuff that is much more egregious than that in most other comics and cartoons of the time.

From quite early on in his career (starting with The Blue Lotus in 1934), Hergé was committed to portraying other cultures accurately and usually pretty sensitively, explicitly portraying Tintin as an opponent of racism. They could have done a straight-up, totally faithful adaption of the adventures the film is based on (1940-43) without much controversy at all.

Anyway, I saw the movie last week, and I thought all in all it was quite good. The action scenes were pretty Hollywood and stood out as having obviously been crammed into the plot, and a certain gag about belching felt a little broad and unrealistic, but other than that it was very true to the Tintin spirit. It looks like it's been a big enough hit in Europe that unless Americans stay away altogether, we'll be getting a sequel (Based on 7 Crystal Balls and Prisoners of the Sun, so they say).

LUniqueDan

Quote from: Snarky on Wed 02/11/2011 07:15:26
Argh, I'm so sick of the whole "Tintin was racist/fascist/Nazi" chestnut being trotted out every time the character is mentioned.

Yeah me too. Tintin was in fact very actual.

Maybe a lil' too much.

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m0ds

Do they use this theme tune at all, a variation of it, or nothing like it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_EK_tFz9ug

Snarky

(Assuming that's the TV series theme.)

No, but check out this: http://vimeo.com/30402976

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Igor Hardy

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Quote from: Snarky on Wed 02/11/2011 07:15:26
Argh, I'm so sick of the whole "Tintin was racist/fascist/Nazi" chestnut being trotted out every time the character is mentioned.

Really? I thought it adds spice to the character's legacy.

I don't agree at all with your suggestions those kind of (currently unpopular) ideological bits are barely noticeable - they're everywhere, even in the character designs. E.g. when the villains drawn in one episode, we're shown a "gag" about the devil taking them to hell. There are surprises like that every few pages (at least in the Tintins I read - the pre-war ones).

blueskirt

#12
Good to see some of you are liking it. I might go watch it next tuesday instead of waiting for the DVD.

QuoteArgh, I'm so sick of the whole "Tintin was racist/fascist/Nazi" chestnut being trotted out every time the character is mentioned.

Not to mention Hergé considered these first adventures to be his Old Shame and begged for them to be left out of reprint.

Edit: Soundtrack by John Williams? Ok, sold.

Secret Fawful

@m0ds: No. But the soundtrack is by John Williams, so I'd argue it's way better.

@Snarky: That's a fan animation. Just mentioning that in case anyone thinks its actually from the film.

Ali

Quote from: Secret Fawful on Wed 02/11/2011 15:43:09
@m0ds: No. But the soundtrack is by John Williams, so I'd argue it's way better.

I haven't heard the film theme, but I am confident that it's not as good. Because NOTHING IS!

m0ds

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Quote from: Secret Fawful on Wed 02/11/2011 15:43:09
@m0ds: No. But the soundtrack is by John Williams, so I'd argue it's way better.

I see. I haven't watched anything Tintin related since I was 12, which is what 15 years ago, yet I remember the theme tune to the cartoon like it was yesterday. J Williams recreating that theme (which I beleive is as memorable as Indy, jaws, etc) would've sold it for me. Too bad. I can't imagine people working on it didn't turn up humming that tune, typical Spielberg twist things to his own liking. I'm no big Tintin fan though, the graphics seem enticing, Tintin's voice doesn't..but I probably would have been persuaded to fork out cash if I'd had that epic theme tune to look forward to. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUOdA0wxudA

Anyway hope people enjoy it. Interesting to see how Spielberg's animated movie(s) compare to Zemeckis' I suppose.

Secret Fawful

#16
Well, despite that, here are a couple links to some of the soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIE4eK7uYaQ
I don't know it is for sure, but the "main theme" or most recurring theme in the soundtrack occurs with greatest volume starting at 2:20 of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdLkB4IABu8
This is my favorite piece of the soundtrack though. I think this one takes place during the flashback of Red Rackham's pirate ship battle. The music doesn't really START until 60 seconds in on this track.

m0ds

Thanks Micheal...I'll have a listen asap  :)

Peder 🚀

The soundtrack sounds nice, and I'm definitely watching the movie once it comes out on DVD. But I gotta say I am really attached to the theme from the series and am a bit dissapointed it seems to have been completely ignored, and not even used for inspiration.

nihilyst

Have seen it yesterday and I really liked it. The last part was a bit rushed, to be true, and it had it's silly parts, but overall I recommend it.

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